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Hi Power vs CZ 75

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by tdstout, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. tdstout

    tdstout New Member

    Jan 11, 2011
    South East Oklahoma
    This question may have already been asked by someone else, but i couldn't find it. Anyways, I'm in the market for a 9mm, and I'm curious as to which one is better in terms of accuracy and reliability. Please don't suggest that I get a Glock. A buddy of mine has one and it's as uncomfortable as hell to me, plus I don't much care for plastic pistols. Dont start hating on me, it's just a personal preference. Any other suggestions are welcome though.
  2. mdThanatos

    mdThanatos Active Member

    Aug 11, 2008
    From what I have heard they are both good choices. I too am in the market for a 9mm and don't want a polygun, this one for me would strictly be for the range. Another option you might want to consider is the Beretta 92. In terms of price it looks like it would be the CZ, the 92 and then the Hi Power, if you were looking at new. If you can find a place that has them and go get a feel for them.
  3. Sunray

    Sunray Elder

    May 17, 2003
    London, Ont.
    Hi. A CZ75 is a modified BHP clone. It is bigger though. The trigger is farther forward, much like a DA 9mm. Try it on for size first. Would have bought one when they first came to Canada(the shop I worked in had a bunch), long ago, but they're too big for my hand. sniff.
  4. Thompsoncustom

    Thompsoncustom Active Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    Both are very good opitions tho both are a little different. the cz 75b holds more rounds but has a bigger grip and the double action reach is long, but it can also be carried cocked and locked in SA.

    The hi power have less rounds but is better for people with same hands and holds less rounds. i think its 13 vs 16 but i'm not sure on that.

    What are you using the gun for? carry or range gun? I carry a full size cz 75b but if I was going to only use it for the range I would buy a 75b SA or the browning hi power.

    and the CZ isn't a browning hi power clone tho a lot of people seem to think that because they are close.
  5. ckone

    ckone Member

    Oct 3, 2008
    While I like Hi-Powers very much, the CZ borrowed everything great about them and added many improvements, for what a quality Hi-Power costs you can get a CZ 75 Shadow which is as good or better than just about ANY 9mm handgun out there regardless of platform...
  6. KodiakBeer

    KodiakBeer member

    Apr 10, 2010
    Kodiak, AK
    The new (and very reliable) Mec Gar Hi Power mags hold 15 rounds.

    The real difference is that the CZ is a DA/SA and the Hi Power is a SA. So, what platform do you prefer?

    Or, you can split the difference and get the CZ 75 SA model. I don't know why those aren't more popular. It eliminates the long trigger reach issue and pretty much duplicates a Hi Power action, at least from the user standpoint.
  7. amd6547

    amd6547 Participating Member

    May 27, 2006
    North Coast of OHIO
    I have medium sized hands, and have owned several HiPowers. I have also owned a CZ75.
    The CZ never felt as good in my hands as th P35.
    While I shot the CZ well, it took more effort on my part, where the P35 felt like part of me.
  8. Wade Wilson

    Wade Wilson New Member

    Jun 18, 2010
    Kennewick, WA
    I have had both, I STILL have the Browning High Power, sold the CZ-75. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the cz-75, in fact its a fantastic gun in general, not just for the money, but there is a reason the BHP cost almost twice as much. The BHP is somewhat smaller, and single action. You can get the CZ75 in SA/DA and S/A. They both make great guns and you wont be dissapointed either way.
  9. Quentin

    Quentin Participating Member

    Jul 30, 2005
    NorthWest USA
    I think once you hold a Hi Power the decision will be made. Nothing else feels as good in many people's hands. The main problem is finding one these days but there are many like new and used ones out there. Don't forget there are low cost FM and FEG models, some of which are true clones. In fact some Argentine FMs are licensed by FN.
  10. Vince45

    Vince45 New Member

    Jun 6, 2011
    I had a CZ 85 9mm , I shot a lot of IDPA with it and fired a case of Norinco, 2000 rounds one season , It never jammed ever , not one round .
  11. GZOh

    GZOh Active Member

    Apr 26, 2008
    I own both and both are truly EXCELLENT pistols. Both are VERY accurate, both are QUALITY pistols and both are close to flawless shoots.
    For my large hands, the CZ-75B feels alittle larger and 'fuller' while the BHP is the sleeker and sexier looker. CZ is DA/SA, BHP is SA only!
    The CZ can be had NIB for about $500, while the BHP new is usually $700+. I own both and wouldn't sell either.
    Start with the CZ and work 'up' price-wise, or the BHP and work down. Some refer to the CZ as a BHP 'clone' but it really isn't... looks close but that's all.
    If you want a BHP clone go after a FEG-HP, usually in the $300+ range USED... also very good pistol!
    Somehow, I'll ditto Quentin... Nothing feels quite like a BHP in your hands... Hard letting it go!!

    Last edited: Jun 6, 2011
  12. chrisb507

    chrisb507 New Member

    Apr 17, 2003
    Northern VA
  13. DFW1911

    DFW1911 Participating Member

    Sep 21, 2006
    Hill Country, TX
    Two great choices; these two, IMHO, happen to be the most naturally pointing / ergonomically comfortable pistols I own.

    The good news is you can't go wrong with either one. However, see if you can find a range where you can test fire them both, put them through their paces, and see which one you like the best.

    You're onto two exceptional designs. Let us know which one you pick...and of course we'll be looking for a range report!

    Good luck and have fun.

    Have fun,
  14. Carter

    Carter Participating Member

    Mar 25, 2010
    North Carolina
    My CZ phantom (polymer framed version) is probably my most loved firearm. Its one that I will never trade, sell, or stop taking to the range.

    I've never shot the HI-Power, but it felt great in my hand. However, I think the CZ has more aftermarket options available.
  15. schmeky

    schmeky Senior Member

    Mar 17, 2006
    West Monroe, Louisiana
    A mis-representation if ever I read one. The designs are completely unrelated. In fact, the late Stephan A. Camp wrote an excellent report detailing the differences. Internally, these designs have nothing in common.

    With this said, these are both timeless engineering marvels. You can't go wrong with either one. The main advantage with the CZ is it is currently very affordable, and the aftermarket support is growing exponentially. You can purchase a CZ, upgrade the trigger performance, sights, action quallity, and enhance other areas as well, and still spend less than you would on an out-of-the-box Hi-Power (that is known for a mundane trigger).
  16. armoredman

    armoredman Elder

    Nov 19, 2003
    proud to be in AZ
    schmeky beat me to it - CZ and BHP have things like being an auto and 9mm caliber in common, not the same gun at all. The late, great Stephen Camp did have a very good comparison write up, being THE Hi Power expert and a CZ guru as well.
    I have shot both and I still have CZ pistols, not Hi Powers. The CZs fit me like a custom made glove, and tend to be very accurate for me. Also, I am not a single action guy, never have been. I like the short DA of the halfcock notch on my CZs, and I agree with a poster above - the Phantom IS an awesome pistol!
  17. Wishoot

    Wishoot Participating Member

    Jun 6, 2009
    Milwaukee, WI
    I have both and enjoy shooting them both very much. Neither would be a bad choice. If one had to go however, it would be the CZ75.

    For me, the Hi Power defines ergonomics, comfort, accuracy and precision machining. Don't get me wrong, the CZ is an excellent gun there's no doubt about it, but the Hi Power trumps the CZ in many respects IMHO.

    Now I just had a chance to shoot a CZ SP01 Phantom and like any other CZ, it's awesome. I may enjoy it more than the 75B. Still doesn't compare with the BHP.
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2011
  18. Princi

    Princi Member

    Jan 15, 2007
    DFW, Texas
    First, I'm shocked to learn about Stephen Camp, I'm glad I bought his manuals from him before he passed away. He lived just north of us here at DFW.

    On topic: I owned the BHP before buying a CZ-75. As schmeky said: they are nothing alike internally. When I bought the CZ-75, I thought the same thing when I looked at the BHP. They do resemble each other.

    The first time I disassembled the BHP, I was amazed at the simplicity of the design. It is pure genius. What I don't like is the later addition of the magazine disconnect, which screws up the feel of the trigger. However, even with the magazine disconnect, the trigger was better than the creepy trigger on my two CZ-75's (9mm and 22LR).

    The CZ-75 has been copied as the Baby Eagle (Magnum Research) and the EAA Witness. EAA also imports the EAA Witness Elite versions that are made in Italy. The Elite versions are fantastic. I bought the Elite Match first, followed by the Limited, and finally got lucky and was able to get the Gold Team.

    There is also a SAO CZ-75 that comes from their Custom Shop. I've shot it, but I don't think it is as good as the EAA Elites, but that is just a personal opinion and I can't give specific facts, I just didn't like it as well.

    The EAA Witness Elite MSRP's are much higher than distributor cost, so you should be able to get one less than the MSRP.
  19. Philo_Beddoe

    Philo_Beddoe Member

    Feb 10, 2009
  20. Apocalypse-Now

    Apocalypse-Now Participating Member

    May 11, 2011
    deluxe apartment in the sky
    uh, nope. not even close ;)

    that's like saying an SKS is an AK47 clone because of the superficial resemblance.

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