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Hillary or Barack?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Robert J McElwain, Oct 20, 2006.


Which one for President?

Poll closed Jan 18, 2007.
  1. Barack

    53 vote(s)
  2. Hillary

    9 vote(s)
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  1. Robert J McElwain

    Robert J McElwain Well-Known Member

    Okay. There's another thread similar to this so let's do the poll.

    Just for one minute, pretend you're a Democrat and you voting in the primaries. And your only choices are Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. How do you vote?

  2. foghornl

    foghornl Well-Known Member

    No way will I vote for an Arkansas Klintoon.

    Not Now Not Ever
  3. pythonguy

    pythonguy Well-Known Member

    ABH - Anybody But Hillary
  4. DRMMR02

    DRMMR02 member

    I "voted" for Obama. But....if I was a Democrat, I would probably really want to vote for the craziest most radical of the two. And we know who that is.
  5. S&W 910

    S&W 910 Well-Known Member

    I for one think the Clinton years are far better then the Bush years

    Hilary has my vote if she runs
  6. orangelo

    orangelo member

    None of the above.
  7. Mr. James

    Mr. James Well-Known Member

    Why "or"?

    If they lined up just right, one shot could probably get them both.


    Just kidding, just kidding. :evil:
  8. progunner1957

    progunner1957 member

    Either will work to destroy the Second Amendment

    Well, let's see... Both are socialist gun hating bigots - as far as our right to arms, one is as bad as the other. Obama at least appears to be the more moderate of the two, so it seems he would be more electable than Frau Clinton.

    If I were a myopic leftist/Democrat/socialist, I suppose I would vote for Obama as he has the better chance of being elected and achieving the leftist/Democrat/socialist goals of:

    1 - Continuing to attack and gut the Second Amendment.

    2 - Making America more vulernable to terrorist attack.

    3 - Cutting and running from the war on terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan - like cowards.

    4 - Throwing open even more wide the gates of unlawful immigration, which would

    5 - Aid terrorists in infiltrating our borders and bringing in weapons of mass destruction.

    6 - Ensure that the working people of America would have to pay for the needs of unlawful immigrants who pay nothing for their own health care and other needs.

    7 - Give the UN power over American citizens and the ability to levy taxes on American citizens, in violation of the Constitution.

    8 - Give the UN the power to force gun confiscation on the American people, in violation of the Constitution.

    9 - Giving the UN the power to try U.S. soldiers for war crimes, in violation of the Constitution.
  9. armabill

    armabill Well-Known Member

    How about neither one!
  10. Justin

    Justin Moderator Staff Member

    If I were a Democrat, then I'd vote for one of the two.

    But then again, if I were the King of All Londonium I'd wear a shiny hat.
  11. ArmedBear

    ArmedBear Well-Known Member

    Barack is a classic BS-man with excellent public speaking skills. There's not much "there" there, if you ask me. Of course this is America, land of leased BMWs and 125% mortgages, so voters in Blue States might just "relate."

    Hillary works hard behind the scenes to accomplish things that are, IMO, downright evil, and she's willing to play dirty to do it.

    So, were I a leftie Democrat, I'd vote for Hillary, who is a committed authoritarian Socialist with skills.

    Were I a center-left Democrat, I'd vote for Barack, because he might have a chance of winning.

    As me, a South Park Republican (actually a registered and formerly active Libertarian who thinks that this isn't the time to screw around), I'm not sure.

    Hillary would mobilize her opposition like no one since Abraham Lincoln, who of course saw half the country secede. 90% chance she'd lose, except against a really lousy Republican candidate like Senator RINO, AZ.

    Barack, on the other hand, would be a relatively innocuous Democrat. If I'm going to have an enemy to fight, I'd rather it be a relatively weak, preppie politician with a smile and a suit than someone who actually has the wherewithal to be an enemy.

    Maybe I'm underestimating Obama, but he was a Senator. It would be hard to underestimate ANY Senator's character and abilities, just like it would be hard to underestimate the postgraduate-level math skills of your average pop singer.

    Now either way, Senators don't become President, generally. It could happen, if it were a Senator vs. Senator race. But otherwise, the odds are against it. Generally, Senators are bloviating BS artists, and do not show leadership qualities. That bodes poorly for an Executive candidate. Parliamentary systems work quite differently, and the PM generally doesn't have the same powers as the President of the US, either.
  12. Rich K

    Rich K Well-Known Member

  13. xd9fan

    xd9fan Well-Known Member

    Does it matter? A socialist is a socialist is a socialist.....
  14. oh blanky

    oh blanky member

    At least we know what Hillary is.

    Young Obama strikes me a scary grinning well spoken puppet.

    Who know what arm lies up yonder butt pulling the strings.

    So, I vote for hiding in the hills.
  15. ArmedBear

    ArmedBear Well-Known Member

    THAT is a good point.
  16. Sistema1927

    Sistema1927 Well-Known Member

    If I was a Democrat I would be ashamed.
  17. longeyes

    longeyes member

    Gimme the best of both: Oprah Now!!! :D
  18. Waitone

    Waitone Well-Known Member

    Lemme see here.

    Marxist or socialist
    Marxist or socialist
    Marxist or socialist.
    Electric chair or gas chamber
    Electric chair or gas chamber

    What's the diff?
  19. Daps

    Daps Well-Known Member

    Hillary nope
    Barack - Don't know enough about him other than he's very well spoken and thought to be a contender to Ford Jr. but don't think he's ready to hold that office just yet.

    Who knows it's all a mockery anyway
  20. ArmedBear

    ArmedBear Well-Known Member


    How's his golf game?
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