How many times can you fail in gun safety in 5:00, I lost count.

[M-Cameron]

I guess I am the one in the wrong here as you all feell like this is safe respectful behavior at the range. Its all fun and games until someone gets hurt. If I ever acted like this on a range my Father would have made it impossible to ever shoot a gun again. I am a firm believer of being organized and prepared at the range at all times. Sounds like I am in the minority. Poor Male Role Models is what has made this acceptable. If I saw a video of my Son or Daughter acting and talking like this we would have a serious problem. Nobody cares about anyone else anymore it all about me and my freedom to act like a tool. ...Russ

theyre kids having fun.......theyre probably not formal shooters.....probably not even semi-serious shooters....they most likely get out once a month or so and enjoy themselves...

There were no serious safety violations.....no one in immediate danger.......

and this is a gun forum....not a parenting forum......if you want to discuss how these rotten teenagers have no respect anymore.....im sure there are a dozen other internet forums where people would be thrilled to discuss it.......

but as far as gun safety goes......the infractions for the most part were very minor.



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[Cosmoline]

ou all feell like this is safe respectful behavior at the range

I would say there are some slack practices going on that need to be remedied. But the remedy for unsafe practices is education, not personal attacks. It's a good practice to keep the benched weapons pointed downrange and to observe and respect a set firing line unless you're going to be doing moving drills.

High hip firing is OK if you can be sure of hitting your target and won't be throwing rounds over the backstop. I've hip fired a blunderbuss at short range before, which is actually how they were fired back in the day. I've also done hip firing with the M91 Mosin. At close range, with practice, one can achieve handgun-level accuracy with this method. And it has utility when using a long barreled rifle in close quarters.

Guns should never be pointed into the sky.

The rule at the ranges I frequent is that uncased firearms must ALWAYS be pointed at the sky. Not the ground. The sky isn't going to get hurt in an ND, but feet and legs can be.

 

[Russ Jackson]

M-Cameron

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I guess I am the one in the wrong here as you all feell like this is safe respectful behavior at the range. Its all fun and games until someone gets hurt. If I ever acted like this on a range my Father would have made it impossible to ever shoot a gun again. I am a firm believer of being organized and prepared at the range at all times. Sounds like I am in the minority. Poor Male Role Models is what has made this acceptable. If I saw a video of my Son or Daughter acting and talking like this we would have a serious problem. Nobody cares about anyone else anymore it all about me and my freedom to act like a tool. ...Russ

theyre kids having fun.......theyre probably not formal shooters.....probably not even semi-serious shooters....they most likely get out once a month or so and enjoy themselves...

There were no serious safety violations.....no one in immediate danger.......

and this is a gun forum....not a parenting forum......if you want to discuss how these rotten teenagers have no respect anymore.....im sure there are a dozen other internet forums where people would be thrilled to discuss it.......

but as far as gun safety goes......the infractions for the most part were very minor.



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M-Cameron you are correct this is not a parenting forum. It is The High Road. And the language alone should not have been allowed on the site and the post and the video should be removed. I certainly would not let my children watch or listen to the video. If my view of the actions at the range offended anyone I appologize. It was never my intent. The way I was raised to respect others, guns, the range, safety, ears and eyes is wrong. But I wont change.....Russ

 

[Sam1911]

Enough already. I don't think anyone here condones any of the things those kids were doing. We seem to be arguing "how bad is bad?"

I don't see the point in absorbing our attention with this, here. If you haven't seen bad gun-handling before, well, consider yourself lucky. Some anonymous kids goofing off and making a few safety blunders (even if we can't quite agree which ones) is hardly news, can't be helped by anything we do or decide here, and isn't really much of a discussion topic.