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I love texas.

Discussion in 'Legal' started by beerslurpy, May 29, 2005.

  1. beerslurpy

    beerslurpy member

  2. thorn726

    thorn726 Well-Known Member

    wow that's kinda odd- you can shoot at night, but not in daytime?
  3. CentralTexas

    CentralTexas Well-Known Member

    In the dark

    the law gives you the benefit of the doubt about them being armed etc. In broad daylight you can see what's in their hands....
  4. HighVelocity

    HighVelocity Well-Known Member

    This article is a few days old and there's a pretty long thread about it at www.texaschlforum.com

    Whatching the news video made me want to spit. Everyone interviewed including the police chief referred to the wounded burglers as "the victims". :banghead: :fire:

    I want to know how somebody that's running away gets shot in the chest. Must have been those evil boomerang bullets. :mad:
  5. Vernal45

    Vernal45 member

    He, the homeowner, will most likely be charged. Which is not what should happen.
  6. The Rabbi

    The Rabbi member

    I think the Texas Criminal Code reads
    "'He needed killing' is a valid defense in self-defense situations."
  7. LawDog

    LawDog Moderator Emeritus cum Laude

    When in doubt, read the ***-****** law.

    Does that look like "limited circumstances"? Does anyone else see "bodily injury or death" in that law? And does anyone else notice that "during the nighttime" only applies to theft and criminal mischief? Neither one of which is burglary.

    You send them to the sodding Academy, you re-train them every two years and what happens? They chew the bloody covers off the books.

  8. The Rabbi

    The Rabbi member

    My oft-repeated refrain is that cops arent lawyers.
  9. LawDog

    LawDog Moderator Emeritus cum Laude

    Codswallop on that excuse.

    If I can keep abreast of the Penal Code updates and the Code of Criminal Procedure updates and various Federal laws and everything else, then Sgt Holt of the Waco-by-God Police Dept ought to be able to keep the part of the Texas Penal Code which doesn't change straight.

  10. The Rabbi

    The Rabbi member

    Not an excuse. An observation. I have seen too many LEOs without the slightest clue of criminal law or procedure. Maybe they're good at being LEOs, I dunno. But we have heard many many stories here where citizen went to the police to ask about gun laws and got total Bravo Sierra instead.
  11. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Whew! I was afraid for a moment you were going to cry, "Balderdash!"

    Seriously: it seems to me people who aren't familiar with the law oughtn't try to enforce it.
  12. Fly320s

    Fly320s Well-Known Member

    Good for the homeowner. Hope he doesn't lose his shirt.

    As an aside, does "ignorance of the law is no excuse" apply to cops?
  13. dolanp

    dolanp Well-Known Member

    That's why the cops investigate and the DA decides to charge.
  14. Vernal45

    Vernal45 member

  15. beerslurpy

    beerslurpy member

    The problem isnt that we have merely average people enforcing the law, its that we have laws that deviate too far from common sense.

    If someone is stealing your ????, you should be allowed to shoot them even if they attempt to flee.

    Fortunately, Texas laws converge nicely with common sense, even if the cops arent aware of it. I'm sure this guy will walk (or simply not be charged).
  16. gc70

    gc70 Well-Known Member

    I like the TV station's stock gun photo.


    Tasteful - but only in Texas...
  17. Byron Quick

    Byron Quick Moderator In Memoriam

    Maybe where you live. I seriously doubt that will happen in Texas. They don't coddle burglars there. As reported, it appears to be a shooting that is legal under Texas law.
  18. Art Eatman

    Art Eatman Administrator Staff Member

    There are many times when I'm in total accord with Molly Ivins about our Texas Legislature. The mis-writing/interpretation of our state Constitution has them meeting for 140 days every two years, instead of vice-versa. Generally, no man's property or billfold is safe when they're in session.

    But I gotta give them credit for the specificity included when they re-wrote the Criminal Code some years back. And, for all that it's now city-dominated, we've done fairly well for farmer/rancher landowner rights...

    :), Art
  19. Spreadfire Arms

    Spreadfire Arms Well-Known Member

    and as usual on THR this has turned into a cop bashing thread. :rolleyes:
  20. The Rabbi

    The Rabbi member

    Only a ninny could tease that meaning out of this thread. I dont think it is asking a lot that cops have at least some knowledge of the laws they are called on to enforce. In the article cited it was obvious that the officer quoted didnt have a clue. I wish that was an isolated incident, but it isnt. Am I bashing cops for making this observation? If so then maybe you're right. But I dont think so.

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