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I need help finding a California legal AR-15!

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Jsor, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. Jsor

    Jsor New Member

    I really want an AR-15, but I live in CA so it is kind of hard. Does anybody know of decently prices CA legal AR's? Or give me some easy routes of making my own? I am looking to spend no more than $700 without tax and yes I realize that's almost impossible but I could always find something used. List the cheapest CA legal AR that you know of or a a cheap, but efficient way to make my own. Please and thanks.
  2. tju1973

    tju1973 New Member

    Try Calguns.net I go there just to see the neat ways gun lovers find to get around Cali's dumb gun laws..I love Cali, feel the pain of the gun owners there, but I absolutely will not live there again until the laws are stricken or reversed..
  3. Jsor

    Jsor New Member

    And the other thing that I heard is that AR-15's are picky on ammo...I don't know if that is true or not?
  4. The Undertaker

    The Undertaker New Member

    I too am shopping for a new AR - I'm looking at the Daniel Defense DDM4v3. Regarding ammo choices, I would avoid using military 5.56 mm ammo in a gun designed for the civilian .233, but not vice versa.
  5. Fractal X

    Fractal X New Member

    I don't know where you are in CA, but around here in the LA / Orange County area Off-list lowers are going for $100-$150. The necessary compliance parts (bullet button or radlock and one 10 rd mag) will run ~$65 and you can get a Del-ton kit for ~$500. This will give you an out of pocket cost of $750-$800.

    The cheapest complete AR I've seen around here had a 20" flat top, no name upper assy. and a CMMG lower. It was pretty beat up and the asking price was still $850. Though, around here, you start to get several options for new reasonable quality ARs at $1100-$1200.

    Definitely check Calguns.net for info, they have lots of relevant threads regarding legal and technical issues with having AR15's here in CA.
  6. Jsor

    Jsor New Member

    Are AR-15's in .223 any louder than any regular .223?
  7. cyclopsshooter

    cyclopsshooter New Member

    they are if you use a muzzle break
  8. NG VI

    NG VI New Member

    Not in my experience. I have NEVER had an AR or M16 give me even the slightest bit of trouble. I owned a single bargain bin CMMG AR-15, perfect rifle, never the least bit of trouble, and have used a wide variety of M16s during my service as an Army National Guardsman for the last four years. I believe I have had a single rifle malfunction a single time, during a state marksmanship team practice. It was a quick fix. Immediate action drills are very important. 90+% of stoppages can be fixed in a few seconds if you are even slightly familiar with your rifle.

    And they will be louder if you use a muzzle brake, but not any louder than any other .223 with a brake on it. I think a bolt action .223 with the same brake might actually be louder (not measurable or noticeable) given that they don't bleed off any gas.
  9. Jsor

    Jsor New Member

    Do all lowers and uppers go together? Like are they all universal?
  10. easy

    easy Member

  11. NG VI

    NG VI New Member

    Every standard commercially sold lower and upper will work together as far as I know, if you buy a commercial lower it will fit a commercial upper unless it says otherwise.

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