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"I was Just Getting Ready For Dove Season..."

Discussion in 'Legal' started by BenW, Aug 15, 2005.

  1. BenW

    BenW Well-Known Member

    I love what this guy did. If I had these people in front of my place for two weeks, I think I'd do the same thing. Love the Sherriff's response too. I think the guy should break out the clay pigeons and just shoot for a couple of hours a day.

    "Oh my God! That man shot a gun! Can't someone do something to him!?!?" "No ma'am, this is Texas...." :D


    Bush Neighbor Suffers Protest Fatigue

    Monday, August 15, 2005

    CRAWFORD, Texas — Protesters outside President Bush's Crawford, Texas, ranch were starting their second week of demonstrations Sunday, leading one neighbor to demonstrate the first signs of protest fatigue.

    Larry Mattlage (search) created quite a stir earlier in the day when he fired his shotgun over his property. The Crawford rancher told reporters he was practicing for dove season.

    Mattlage expressed frustration about the ongoing anti-war protest taking place near his property, and said other neighbors are also getting aggravated by all of the protest activity on their quiet country road.

    "You want something like this in your backyard? Huh, or your front yard? This is our yard right here. We just happen to, in Texas, have a bigger yard than they do in Maryland," Mattlage told reporters.

    "I mean, would you like somebody invading your house for a long time and blocking your view and blocking your road? I wake up every morning [with] this crowd, and I go to bed every night with this campground down here on a public road, which I'm paying taxes to, the middle of this road," he said.

    Mattlage has been watching throughout the past week as more and more protesters join Cindy Sheehan (search) outside the president's 1,500-acre ranch. Sheehan's son Casey was killed in Iraq in 2004. She says she wants U.S. troops to pull out of Iraq, and she will stay here until Bush speaks with her.

    Bush has defended his decision not to meet with Sheehan, with whom he met once before.

    ''Whether it be here or in Washington or anywhere else, there's somebody who has got something to say to the president, that's part of the job. And I think it's important for me to be thoughtful and sensitive to those who have got something to say. But I think it's also important for me to go on with my life, to keep a balanced life," Bush told Cox News Service during a bicycle ride on Saturday.

    On Sunday, Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean (search) said Bush should meet with Sheehan.

    "Because the president sent her son to Iraq, her son lost his life. I think the president should meet with any parent who has sacrificed their son or daughter for the defense of the United States of America," Dean told a Sunday morning network talk show.

    In 2004, Bush met with Sheehan and other grieving families. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who traveled with Bush the day he met with the families, described the president's mood afterward.

    "I have seen him, I have seen his care, and I've seen him grieve. And I'm sure he wouldn't like to hear me say this, but I have seen him afterwards. He was very, very grieved," McCain told "FOX News Sunday."

    After Sheehan was joined by other anti-war protesters, pro-Bush demonstrators also traveled to Crawford. One pro-Iraq policy demonstrator said those against the president are not from Texas. Others said if the anti-war protesters succeed in altering U.S. policy, it would put more troops in harm's way.

    The increased traffic in Crawford did not affect Bush, first lady Laura Bush or Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice as they traveled Saturday night from the ranch to the Baylor University campus in nearby Waco, where the three attended the Little League Southwest Regional championship game.

    But Mattlage said he is frustrated by the traffic — and subsequent side effects of it — in his neighborhood.

    "We got a battle of the port-a-potties. They first started going to the bathroom in a five-gallon bucket, then they moved a port-a-pottie and then they got two port-a-potties, and now we got three and if this keeps up they will be all the way down the road," he said. "The only people winning here is the person who cleans the port-a-potties."

    Mattlage said he sympathizes with Sheehan, but the crowd that has developed is akin to guests that won't leave.

    "When they first came out here, I was sympathetic to their cause, all right. They as American citizens have a right to march, to protest, but it's like company. If you had your brother-in-law in your house for five days, wouldn't it start stinking after a while? You're ready for them to go home."

    Mattlage said he respects the anti-war protesters and he respects President Bush, but he is frustrated because both federal and county law enforcement told him they can do nothing to end the anti-war protest.

    U.S. Secret Service and McLennan County sheriff's deputies went to Mattlage's home on Sunday afternoon to urge restraint, and the situation appeared to calm down a bit after Mattlage spoke with law enforcement and vented to reporters.

    McLennan County Sheriff Larry Lynch said Mattlage didn't violate any law by firing his shotgun on Sunday.

    "He's on his own property. He's getting ready for dove season he says," Lynch said adding that had Mattlage shot across the road rather than on his own land, he would have broken state and county laws.

    "Everybody needs to use restraint in this situation out here. This is a situation that's taken all these folks by storm and impacted a lot of businesses out here. But so far everybody's been compliant and that's what we are here for, the deputies are here to make sure that this continues on in a peaceful manner. Folks need to comply with all the rules and regulations in the state of Texas and county and that's what we are here for this morning," the sheriff added.

    Mattlage said he loves Bush because the Bible tells people to love their neighbors. But he said he is not a politician and is not interested in the president's business.

    "All I know, when he gets done with his presidency, he is our neighbor and all of you all and all of this protest is out of here," he said.
  2. Mongo the Mutterer

    Mongo the Mutterer Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I caught the interview on Fox. Good on that guy.

    I had an idea, as well. Lets set up some berms on his property and do some real shootin!

    While I feel sorry for this gal Sheehan, you have to look at the situation AFAIK:

    1. her son was on his second tour of duty and had been in the Army for several years.

    2. her son volunteered to help his buddies and was killed being a hero.

    3. her son wasn't drafted, he was a volunteer.

    4. she has already met with the President.

    5. now she is calling on Israel to leave the Palestinians alone...

    6. her family has published an open letter criticizing her efforts...

    I think she is close to dishonoring her son's name, and should put a fork in it and go home. She is being used by the Socialist Mainstream Media, and the left as a tool.
  3. boofus

    boofus Guest

    I wouldn't mind going to a machinegun shoot on his land if he hosts it. Nothing makes bedwetting liberals scurry away to their holes faster than full automatic gun fire. :p
  4. R.H. Lee

    R.H. Lee Well-Known Member

    That kind of remark gives lefties a hard packed wedgie that will require the services of a proctologist to remove. :p
  5. itgoesboom

    itgoesboom member

    This is from the AP's story about this.....

    Hmmmmm.....Intresting. :barf:

  6. foghornl

    foghornl Well-Known Member


    Maybe we should dig out the .30+ cal loudenboomers...preparing for deer/elk/bear season.....
  7. BenW

    BenW Well-Known Member

    Yeah, on the serious side of this issue, I have sympathy for ANY parent that loses a child, be it through war, accident, or illness, but this woman has left the "grieving mother" aspect far, far behind.

    The more I read about her history, the more disgusted I become by her actions, and use of her son for publicity. Looks like now among other things, her whole, "I won't pay taxes" spiel has actually been going on since ~1998 (wonder what Clinton did to make her mad?)
  8. buzz_knox

    buzz_knox Well-Known Member

    Watching an interview with her concerning this, she said she was distracted by the media leaving her prayer service to see what was happening. The shots didn't distract her; the media leaving did. Told me everything I ever needed to know about her.
  9. Yanus

    Yanus Well-Known Member

    Maybe someone who owns a quad 50 should go to Crawford and have a late night shoot on this man's land. I don't think he would object............. :D

  10. Chairman Meow

    Chairman Meow Well-Known Member

    Are you guys crazy? This type of BS is exactly what anti-gun folks use to perpetuate their stereotype of gun owners: knuckle-dragging mouth-breathing male monkies that use bad grammar and violence to intimidate people. Regardless of how you feel about that lady and her protest (I agree, it seems pointless), you can't honestsly be naive enough to not realize the damage stories like this do to our cause as gun owners, can you? Seriously, do the gun community a collective favor and grow up.
  11. BenW

    BenW Well-Known Member

    Or perhaps the freaked out people could grow up. The guy shot his shotgun on his own land. There was many a time I dove hunted 30 feet from my folks back door because they have a nice chunk of land and it's legal. None of the neighbors ever complained. Lots of them did the same thing.

    Just because someone who doesn't like guns shows up in the neighborhood shouldn't mean all the gun owners have to lock up their guns so they don't "give a bad impression." It's his land and it's legal. He can shoot all he wants. If the protestors don't like it, they should move the protest to DC, where guns aren't allowed.
  12. Chairman Meow

    Chairman Meow Well-Known Member

    No, but it does mean they shouldn't use their firearms to scare people with contrary political views, as was clearly the man's intent given the following quotes:

    "Figure it out for yourself" means "YES, I did have another motive!" And not only was the man stupid enough to use a gun to scare a bunch of left-wing protestors, but the moron goes on record verifying that his intent was intimidation! What an idiot. If I remember I'll send him a thank you note for helping Hillary take more of our rights away.
  13. Mongo the Mutterer

    Mongo the Mutterer Well-Known Member

    Lemmeee seee (Mongo looks in mirror)

    Got most of that covered. I have to do better :evil:

    Who cares what the gun grabbing statist lefties think? They are my enemy.
  14. Chairman Meow

    Chairman Meow Well-Known Member

    Congress does.
  15. HankB

    HankB Well-Known Member

    I felt some sympathy for the woman - after all, she lost a son - until I found out she'd already met with Bush . . . then it looks like someone "got" to her, since her comments about that meeting have flipped 180 degrees.

    Makes you wonder not IF $$$ changed hands, but HOW MANY $$$ changed hands.

    The way for locals to deal with protestors like this is to spread some fresh manure along the fence, just inside their property line. In the hot Texas sun, that will make for a pleasant sit-in. :evil:
  16. Mongo the Mutterer

    Mongo the Mutterer Well-Known Member

    My congressman doesn't, and he is consistently elected.

    As for the rest of Congress who are we speaking about ... Fat Teddy? Pelosi? the rest of the gungrabbers? They aren't going to change...

    And the media which controls their agenda is being undermined by talk radio and blogs day by day...
  17. JohnBT

    JohnBT Well-Known Member

    I agree that gun owners need to hide in the basement so we don't offend anyone. In fact, we have an obligation to roll over and die.

    Just kidding.

    Member www.vcdl.org
    NRA Life Member
  18. javafiend

    javafiend member

    Mongo, who exactly wrote the letter? ave you read it? Do you have a copy of it?
  19. Yanus

    Yanus Well-Known Member

    I think this fellow should invite a few dove hunting friends over....... Then, everyone can test their shotguns at a different time of the night. :evil:

  20. boofus

    boofus Guest

    I still think hosting a machinegun and tannerite shoot in his backyard is the way to go. Maybe he could convince Ted Nugent to play a concert afterwards, since he's also a neighbor of W. :neener:

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