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I'd rather be lucky than good.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by KBintheSLC, Mar 3, 2009.


I'd rather be...

  1. Lucky

    42 vote(s)
  2. Good

    56 vote(s)
  1. KBintheSLC

    KBintheSLC Well-Known Member

    I was watching a WWII documentary a while back in which a veteran of the siege on Iwo Jima said that only luck spared him from death. He said that at one point in time, virtually every cubic meter of air space was filled by a high-velocity chunk of searing metal. He said that it didn't really matter how good you were when the lead started to fly. If you were not lucky, you were dead.

    I wanted to see what your opinions are on what works best... lucky or good. I know that on the street, you are unlikely to see anything that resembles the beaches of Iwo Jima. However, we all know that criminals have all of the good weapons, so the likelihood of getting sprayed by an automatic Uzi or AK is slightly more probable. The likelihood of getting sprayed by a group of guys with semi-auto pistols is even more probable. Either way, when the lead starts flying, its anybodies game.

    Ideally, we would want to be both lucky and good. But if you had to choose, what would it be? Can luck save you from poor tactics? Can great skill save you from poor luck?
  2. CoRoMo

    CoRoMo Well-Known Member

    I'd rather be consistently adequate.
  3. Funderb

    Funderb Well-Known Member

    If you read up on police reports in any area, you will find that getting sprayed with an automatic anything is about as likely as being struck by lightening.

    I'd rather be lucky, either way.
  4. rbernie

    rbernie Well-Known Member

    We do NOT 'all know this'. Can you provide a cite for it?

    I believe that there is wisdom in the old saw that chance favors the prepared.
  5. KBintheSLC

    KBintheSLC Well-Known Member

    Actually, here in Northern Utah, one is many times more likely to be struck by lightning. But thats not really what I am getting at here...
  6. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    It seems the "gooder" you get, the luckier you also get.

    WWII combat vets, or any other combat vet, will tell you the new guys were far more likely to make a fatal mistake.

  7. Funderb

    Funderb Well-Known Member

    ^^ but the vets were new once too, and they got lucky to be good.

    lucky begets good.
  8. KBintheSLC

    KBintheSLC Well-Known Member

    I understand what you are getting at. Most machine guns in this country are legally owned.

    Obviously, I am not here stating factual statistics. However, I am assuming that it is far easier for a criminal to buy a machine gun due to the simple fact that they are criminals. All they have to do is come up with the money. They don't need to get permission from Uncle Sam and their BATFE.

    Again... that is not the point of this thread.
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2009
  9. Patrick_Henry

    Patrick_Henry Well-Known Member

    +1 for Good.

    Extraordinary skill and determination has repeatedly pulled individuals through even some of the most unfortunate situations I can imagine. I've heard of luck pulling somebody through once, but repeatedly? That isn't very likely. Much avoidance of bad situation comes from skill not dumb luck. Remember, even in the story you are referencing, if armies were not well organized around objectives, and "good" individual would simply find a less dangerous way of neutralizing the threat... Most of us simply choose to avoid fighting anything where the odds get that low...
  10. Pulse

    Pulse Well-Known Member

    in War, skills and personaly abillity saves you until the Artillery kicks in, the flyboys come down and the heavy armor rolls in, after that is it pure luck.

    as long as the Criminals around you dont have Close Air Support, Artillery on stand-by and drive around in IFVs and MBTs, i would rather be good.
  11. Lewis130

    Lewis130 Well-Known Member

    If you are lucky, every round you fire will be a fatal hit, and every round they fire will be a wide miss. A lucky person doesn't need to be good.
    Sadly, luck doesn't tend to be consistently prevailent.
  12. Thingster

    Thingster Well-Known Member

    Luck comes to those that prepare.

    So I'll definitely agree with a couple other posters, the line between good and lucky can be very thin, very fuzzy, and in general not well defined.

    The better you are, the luckier you'll be so I'd like to be good enough to be lucky consistently.
  13. Claude Clay

    Claude Clay Well-Known Member

    rather be good and lucky
  14. Boba Fett

    Boba Fett Well-Known Member

    I want to be good so I can make the most of my luck.
  15. jnyork

    jnyork Well-Known Member

    Ever notice that the people who work the hardest and are the best prepared are always the luckiest?
  16. Schofield

    Schofield member

    Shoot! I want to change my vote.
  17. Boba Fett

    Boba Fett Well-Known Member

    Too late! You weren't prepared to vote and now yer outta luck :D

    Welcome to the forum new member ^_^/
  18. KBintheSLC

    KBintheSLC Well-Known Member

    There could be some truth to that. I don't know if it is coincidence or divine intervention. But somehow, luck does offer itself more readily to those who reciprocate with effort.
  19. mbt2001

    mbt2001 Well-Known Member

    I kind of agree and disagree with this at the same time. I agree that if it is your time to go, it is your time, can't stop it...

    But if you think for an instant that tactics, nerve and accuracy do not matter you are deluding yourself.

    I highly doubt that. I am sure he might have been taking heavy fire, but COVER is still COVER and ACCURACY still wins the day.
  20. GTSteve03

    GTSteve03 Well-Known Member


    Doesn't matter how good you are, if Lady Luck decides today the dice don't roll your way, nothing you can do about it.

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