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Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Brian Williams, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. Radagast

    Radagast Well-Known Member

    Geezer Glide:
    Your gun is a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change.
    That serial number should date to 1927-1930 (serial range 500000 to 630000).
    The 2 inch barrel was introduced in July 1938 and diamond Magna grips were introduced around 1936, but the round butt version dates to around 1950. AFAIK the pre-war round butt guns used hard rubber grips. The gun has the made in the USA stamp used in the 20s & 30s.

    I would check to see if the grips are serial number matched to the gun. If they are then it may be worth getting a factory letter to prove its provenance.
    If not matching then my guess is a normal 1927-30 gun that was later re-barreled.
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2012
  2. cyclopsshooter

    cyclopsshooter Well-Known Member

    a) 38
    b) 5 inch
    c) square butt
    d) six shots
    e) 38/44 heavy duty
    f) 422XX
  3. Radagast

    Radagast Well-Known Member

    Best I can give you is 1931 to 1935.
    The .38/44 Heavy Duty began production in March 1930 at serial number 35037. The .38/44 Outdoorsman shared the serial range and started at 38939 in 1931.
    A prototype Registered magnum with serial number 45808 shipped for testing in early 1935.
  4. Pine Cone

    Pine Cone Well-Known Member

    My S&W book is still missing from my last move.
    a) 22LR
    b) 1 7/8"
    c) Square
    d) 6
    e) adjustable
    f) 757xx
    g) 34-1

    Thanks for helping me with this.
  5. Radagast

    Radagast Well-Known Member

    Pine Cone:
    Your Model 34-1 Model of 1953 .22/.32 Kit Gun was manufactured between 1960 & 1965. Serial range for those years was 70000 to 108087. Based on average production of roughly 7500 guns per year, I would place your gun in 1960 or early 1961.
    The -1 refers to a change from the earlier .32 size I frame (hence .22/.32) to the .38 special sized J frame.
  6. NeptunusRex

    NeptunusRex New Member

    A) .38 Special
    B) 2"
    C) Square
    D) 5
    E) Blade front, fixed slotted rear
    F) Nickel finish
    G) Model 36
    H) 1996XX sn

    My grandfathers backup piece when he was on the Redondo Beach Police Department. Thanks in advance!
  7. Radagast

    Radagast Well-Known Member

    You have a Model 36 Chiefs Special or a Model 37 Chiefs Special Airweight manufactured between 1958 (serial number 150133) & 1962 (serial number 295000). If an Airweight it will be marked Airweight on the barrel.
  8. Insp Evans

    Insp Evans Member

    Caliber: .38 Special
    Barrel length: 6 inches
    Grip shape: Square
    Rounds: 6
    Sights: Service
    Ser #: 799149
    Model #: n/a
  9. Radagast

    Radagast Well-Known Member

    Insp Evans:
    You have a .38 Military & Police model of 1905 4th Change manufactured in 1940 or early 1941.
    This gun lacks the positive hammer block safety introduced in 1944. If dropped it could fire. Treat it as a 5 shooter and leave the chamber under the hammer empty.
  10. CodyMorgan

    CodyMorgan New Member

    caliber: .38 Spec
    b) bbl length: 5 1/4
    c) grips shape: square
    d) number of shots/cylinder bores: 6
    e) type of sights: fixed half moon
    f) serial number: S 908768

    Attached Files:

  11. 14 jaycee

    14 jaycee New Member

    ok..this is what I have

    a) caliber: .38 Spec ctg airweight
    b) bbl length: 2"
    c) grips shape: round
    d) number of shots/cylinder bores: 5
    e) type of sights: fixed
    f) serial number: J8740xx
    g) Model number: 37
    H)number under mod. # is 45114

    Last edited: Dec 27, 2012
  12. thefresh2o

    thefresh2o Active Member

    Triple Lock

    Hello again radagast,

    I have a Triple Lock I would like a DOB for - and any more information folks may be able to help with would be appreciated.

    We think it's a .455 Webley, but there is no calibre marking on the revolver. It is a friends Grandfather's WWI service revolver. 45acp will slide in cleanly but it isn't relieved for 'clips. 45 colt cases fit ok. 44 cases rattle around a bunch.

    a) caliber: .455 Webley
    b) bbl length: 6.5"
    c) grips shape: square
    d) number of shots: 5
    e) type of sights: fixed
    f) serial number: 2039
    g) Model: Triple Lock

    Many thanks & Merry Christmas!
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2012
  13. stormy0920

    stormy0920 New Member

    Looking for information on a gun I recently acquired. States Smith & Wesson on the side of the barrel along with 38 S & W SPC CTG. On the butt the number is C4970. Barrel length approx 1 7/8 inch and is a 6 shot revolver. Also, it has fixed sights. I believe it has round grips. I would like to know the approximate age and value of the gun.
  14. Gabby Hayes

    Gabby Hayes Well-Known Member

    I recently picked up two blue steel S&W J-frames if anyone has any info.

    a) .38 S&W Special
    b) 2-inch
    c) round butt, checkered wood with diamond insert, SN on grips matches SN on frame
    d) 5
    e) fixed
    f) 1913xx
    g) Model 36 (no dash)

    a) .38 S&W Special
    b) 3-inch
    c) round butt, aftermarket grips
    d) 5
    e) fixed
    f) 5057xx
    g) Model 36 (no dash)

    Thanks in advance.
  15. Radagast

    Radagast Well-Known Member

    Gabby Hayes:
    Gun no.1, your Model 36 Chiefs Special dates to between 1959 & 1962. Serial range for that period was 163000 to 295000, so 1959 or 1960 seems likely.

    Gun no.2 was manufactured between 1962 & 1969 (serial range 295000 to 786544). If the cylinder release is flat, then 1962 -1966. If concave then 1966-69.

    You have a .38 Military & Police Postwar manufactured in 1948. In 1957 this gun was designated the Model 10. Value is dependent upon condition, I suggest you post a new thread with pics. As a rough rule of thumb, in excellent condition it may be worth around $350.

    Your friend has a .455 Mark II Hand Ejector 1st Model manufactured in 1914 or 1915. Check to see if the gun will accept a cylinder full of .45 Colt, if yes then it has been modified as the cylinder face needed machining to accept Colt rims.
    If military issue it should have British Broad Arrow markings and British nitro proof marks or, if Canadian, crossed pennants.
    If marked as 450 Eley without govt. markings then it may be a privately purchased .44 Hand Ejector 1st Model (Triple Lock). 1226 were manufactured in .450 Eley

    14 jaycee:
    Your Model 37 Chiefs Special Airweight was manufactured in 1981.

    Cody Morgan:
    You have a .38 Military & Police Post War transitional model, manufactured in 1947. These guns are called transitional models as they incorporate the now standard internal hammer block safety, but still use the pre-war & wartime 'long action' which was replaced with the current 'short action' in 1948.
  16. Gabby Hayes

    Gabby Hayes Well-Known Member

    Radagast, you are da man! :)
  17. RedHatInstructor

    RedHatInstructor New Member

    New to me Old S&W

    I've got:

    Almost 6in barrel
    6 shooter
    rounded wood grips
    5 screws (one top of side of frame between the hammer and cylinder, one bottom side of frame behind trigger guard, one over trigger, under cylinder, one just above the trigger guard in front, and one between grips on front of frame)
    Serial is K 25XX
    Inside frame is stamped "U" under is 1120
    22 long rifle CTG printed on right side of barrel

    Any info would be appreciated!
  18. JellyJar

    JellyJar Well-Known Member

    Ok, I just bought it today at a gun show.

    1 Model 649-1
    2 38 spl
    3 1 7/8" barrel
    4 SS# BBU97XX
  19. chunk

    chunk Well-Known Member

    I just picked up a beautiful model 19-3 nickel , 2 1/2 inch barrel round grip & would like to know its b-day s/n 8k477xx . thanks
  20. Radagast

    Radagast Well-Known Member

    Your Model 649-1 .38 Bodyguard Stainless was manufactured in early 1989.

    You have a K22 Masterpiece manufactured in 1947, the second year of production. it was intended to be a premium target revolver, with identical balance to the .32 S&W Long K32 & the .38 Special K38, thus providing the set required for the Camp Perry national match. As an early gun, if in excellent condition there will be some collectors interest in it.
    In 1957 the K22 was designated the Model 17.
    K25xx is the serial number, u & 1120 are assembly numbers, used to track parts in the factory. They are not recorded and have no meaning after the gun is completed.

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