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If your state passed new terrible gun laws, would you move or stay and fight?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jlbraun, Mar 2, 2013.

  1. browneu

    browneu Well-Known Member

    I would do everything in my power to move. It may not be immediate but eventually I'd get to a free state.

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  2. NYer

    NYer Member

    As a 30 year resident of NY I have watched the gradual decrease of personal freedom with each passing year. This past November the NY Senate went "D" and I knew that the thumb was out of the dam, and the dam burst.
    For 30 years I have watched people vote with their feet and move from states that didn't reflect their philosophy to states that did. Because of this we have more and more states that are more red or more blue by wider margins. (Blue states get bluer and red states get redder.) I don't see that trend reversing itself. Soon I too will vote with my feet and go looking for freedom. The only problem is that when people in other states hear I am from NY they close the door! :(

    No one wants to contaminate their culture with folks from NY. Please do not tar all NYer's with the same feather.

  3. Jimineer

    Jimineer Well-Known Member

    Texas and Oklahoma will be the last to fall. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but if ever...
  4. Alaska444

    Alaska444 member

    My wife and I originally planned on staying in Colorado, but we moved to CA to be close to my son while he was in school. Our daughter moved from Colorado during that time and is up in Idaho now.

    Providentially, Idaho is a much better fit than Colorado the way that they are going rapidly to the left. Sad, Colorado was once a great place for freedom but is no longer. Hate to say it, but that is the evil awaiting all of our western state one at a time.

    Time to hold the course my friends.

    P.S. my formative years were at the top of O'Malley Road. I Love the Anchorage area but I don't miss the mosquitoes at all.:evil:
  5. JTHunter

    JTHunter Well-Known Member

    Leave until all the parasites and leeches cause the state to implode. Then rebuild it with the kind of people who know how to make it work right again.
  6. Cosmoline

    Cosmoline Well-Known Member

    True, Alaska is the last best place. And there's pretty much zero chance of the legislature turning on us. If they do I actually know a number of those guys and can yell at them. In a functional democracy you can actually call up your reps and talk to them. Radical idea I know!

    The fear here is federal law. And with the feds owning so much of the land their hand is always heavy. Our population is also small and dependent on the very infrastructure the feds support. So things would get really messy if troopers start tryin to arrest FBI agents.
  7. Art Eatman

    Art Eatman Administrator Staff Member

    I figure that it's likely that there would have been quite a few "Get out of Dodge!" clues about a state's decline in freedom, long before any serious we-hate-guns laws were passed. I'd have already been gone.
  8. JFtheGR8

    JFtheGR8 Well-Known Member

    My wife and I have good careers right where we are. It would be easy for me to find another job in my field but not so much for her. I've been hoping she could get a transfer to a southern state but for now I'll stay and fight. I think a lot of nonsense is going to get passed in Illinois if we don't stand up and be heard. It could still go through but then anyone with an I for incumbent by their name during the next election better plan on a different career.

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  9. Jefferson Herb

    Jefferson Herb Well-Known Member


    If I'm lucky,I will be able to hide my own easter eggs,amd meet new friends w/o leaving the house;by the time Oregon gets as bad. No kids,just horses and dogs;and I'm not sure if I'll leave any firearms to my nephews ak wannabe leos.
  10. Bobson

    Bobson Well-Known Member

    Same here. I moved from one state to another five times in the last five years. Nothing keeping me here that I couldn't find elsewhere if I decided to move again tomorrow.

    Teach your kids American History, logic, and pray for their wisdom; and let them decide for themselves whether fighting for their freedom and liberty is the same as hating their country. Or just teach them the truth yourself. Hint: Not even close.

    "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

    We're much closer to tyranny than liberty, according to ol' Jeffy.
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2013
  11. Quick Shot xMLx

    Quick Shot xMLx Well-Known Member

    The good thing about bordering an even redder state is being able to hop over to SC if anything goes down. As much as NE liberal transplants have ruined this state I don't think (more) gun control is currently possible. Quite a few states have to fall before this one does.
  12. Geno

    Geno Well-Known Member

    I'm more concerned with the probability of winter returning each year to Michigan, than I am of unreasonable gun laws returning to Michigan. Michigan is trending the opposite direction: reversing senseless, restricting laws. Winter on the other hand, just keeps returning.

  13. AlbertH

    AlbertH member

    Its sad but true and the older one gets the tougher it is to shovel that snow. Unfortunately the the need to reduce the budget without reducing the size of government, the doubling of the executive branches wages, the desire to shift taxes away from business and on to Ralph Retiree has moved Michigan up the list of least retiree friendly states. Since tax increases are bad we are being inundated with "user fees".

    I took an early retirement three years ago and My wife has 5 1/2 years before she will be taking hers. I have already been informed that we will be leaving Michigan and all of its snow. Well she is leaving because of the snow, I am leaving because our governor would rather have "Highly educated immigrants" living here than retirees.

    Michigan is a beautiful except for that 40+ inches of snow each winter!!!!
  14. Alaska444

    Alaska444 member

    After living in the desert of CA for the last 20 years, I welcome the winter snows of Idaho. Sadly, it looks like winter is almost over up here already. The snow is melted and the sun is coming out. Now it is time to go back to CA for a couple of months to take care of some issues and get the house ready to sell. Shucks, I won't miss that hot desert sun one little bit. Nor will I miss the politics of CA one little bit either.
  15. ThorinNNY

    ThorinNNY Well-Known Member

    If there`s anybody here that wants to boycott New York State because of the SAFE act, Please:

    E mail Senator Betty Little and tell her about it. WHY? Betty Little is the chair of the Senate Cultural Affairs and TOURISM,Parks&Recreation Committee.

    She is pro 2A and your correspondence may provide anmmunition to help defeat Cuomo & his outrageous SAFE Act.

    or write to Sen. Betty Little
    310 Legislative Office Bldg
    Albany,NY 1227

    Thank you.
  16. mjw930

    mjw930 Well-Known Member

    I'd stay and fight.

    Being in FL that's easier for me to say since we aren't confronted with nearly as much madness as others. With that said, I can't imagine uprooting my family, losing money on my property (yes, I'm another one of those idiots who's upside down in my house) and possibly having to find another job over gun legislation. My life does not revolve around my guns.
  17. clutch

    clutch Well-Known Member

    I'm in Michigan. We have been going the right way. Maybe it has something to do with Detroit and Flint dying and their inhabitants running away to another state that is likely already on its way to ruin now.

    I'm staying here. Everyone I care about is inside a 35 mile circle.

    I'm 0 to 20 years from dying at this point. From my cold dead hands after I emptied my wallet trying to keep correct thinking legislators in office if it comes to it.

    I'm staying. I'll fight if it comes to it. If it comes to it, the game is almost over so why not. Nothing left to lose.

  18. SHR970

    SHR970 Well-Known Member

    I've been fighting that fight for over 20 years. Why should I change now? I grew up here and watched this state get taken over by southern and rust belt liberals.

    Most of you have no idea how your "come move to a free state" credo can be your undoing. If 10% of my COUNTY moved into any of half of the states you would turn from red to blue.

    Sentiments provided from Los Angeles County California. A county where we have more people than 42 of the STATES. Be careful what you ask for. I would rather 20% of the pro 2A from other solid blue states move here and help us take back this place and its 55 electoral votes (or at least put them in play).
  19. Alaska444

    Alaska444 member

    I wish you luck my friend. I am about in your age range as well, nearly 55 anyway and I am already on dialysis. I lived in CA for 20 years to be near my son after my first marriage dissolved, but now there is nothing to keep me here any longer.

    I am glad we did not settle on Colorado which was our original plan. Idaho is a great fit.

    The bottom line as you point out is where your family is. I am sure the Lord will keep you in all ways where you take your stand. The bottom line is that if we lose at the Federal level, we all lose no matter which state we live.

    Best wishes,

  20. sleepyone

    sleepyone Well-Known Member

    That is exactly why you don't see me jumping up and down to invite you to move to Texas. While I feel badly for fellow 2A supporters who live in states that are not pro 2A, I also know that demographics change drastically when large groups of people move from one state or region to another. I remember in the 70s and 80s when we had a HUGE influx of Yankees to Texas as corporations relocated to the Dallas/Fort Worth and other large cities in Texas. It forever changed the state. Some changes were good, but from my perspective, there were more cons than pros. Most recently, we had a huge migration of Californians to Texas. I have come to know several families and I can tell you they left for fiscal reasons not for RKBA reasons. They are shocked by the hunting and gun culture. They are not hostile to it, but they certainly don't understand it. I'm trying to educate them. These people are voters and have kids who will become voters. Time will tell whether this mass exodus from California will be a good thing or a bad thing. So far I am not encouraged.

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