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(IL) In wooing Cabela's, village suspends local gun rules

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Drizzt, Feb 10, 2006.

  1. Drizzt

    Drizzt Senior Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Moscow on the Colorado, TX
    In wooing Cabela's, village suspends local gun rules


    With no public discussion, the Hoffman Estates Village Board on Monday voted unanimously to eliminate parts of the village's local firearms ordinance.

    The changes mean that gun purchases will not have to be reported to the Hoffman Estates Police Department. It also means that the police department will no longer run its own background checks on gun buyers and it will not issue permits.

    Firearms retailers and consumers, however, must still comply with state and federal gun laws, which require buyers to obtain an Illinois Firearms Owner Identification (FOID) card, submit to a background check and comply with the standard 24- or 72-hour waiting period, depending on what type of gun is being bought.

    The new ordinance was tailored on behalf of Cabela's, a national camping and hunting outfitter which is planning to open a 200,000-square-foot store in Hoffman Estates in 2007. Cabela's will sell shotguns, long rifles and handguns in addition to second-hand firearms. The retailer is expected to generate annual sales tax revenues of about $2 million.

    Trustees Cary Collins said he approved the measure because he was told by Village Manager Jim Norris that Cabela's would pull their plans if it failed.

    "We were limited as far as what we could do (earlier this week)," Collins said.

    Norris said he told trustees only that the ordinance change was important to Cabela's.

    "By no means was this a deal-breaker. Cabela's already closed on the land ... I told trustees that this was important to Cabela's, but I never told them this was a deal-breaker," he said.

    Trustee Fred Crespo, chairman of the village's Public Health and Safety Committee, said Cabela's is an essential part of the burgeoning entertainment district in the Prairie Stone Business Park, where the store will be located.

    "Securing Cabela's, along with the Sears Centre ... is paramount. It will be good for the village and good for the region," he said. "But if I thought for any reason this would put our police or our residents at risk, I wouldn't have hesitated to vote against it."

    For the volume of estimated gun sales at Cabela's, the old ordinance was a poor fit, Norris said. Previously, it required firearms buyers to submit to a background check and receive a permit. Completing the process could take several days.

    "[Cabela's] sells so many weapons that are used for hunting that for them to manage the paperwork and the frequency with which that paperwork would need to be turned over ... it would be a burden for them," Norris said. "[Cabela's officials] have been very open with us since the very beginning and they told us early on that they thought this might be a burden."

    The lack of comments, from the public and from the Village Board, indicated the amended ordinance was a non-issue, Norris said.

    Hoffman Estates has been without a firearms retailer for more than a decade.

    Trustee Lloyd Boester said he was unsure whether or not Cabela's plans hinged on the ordinance. Regardless, the amended ordinance provides sufficient oversight of gun sales, he said.

    "[Cabela's] may or may not have had other plans to go elsewhere. I know they've been looking all over in this area for a site, but at the same time (Police Chief) Clint Herdegen and (Village Attorney) Dick Williams said they were satisfied with it. I am not a gun person and I am not a gun-control person, and this change doesn't bother me," Boester said.

    Cabela's officials are tentatively scheduled to introduce plans for the new Hoffman Estates store next month.

  2. Old NFO

    Old NFO Member

    Nov 19, 2004
    Arlington, VA
    Oh, wait a minute... Don't tell me they are compromising their precious children just for the Money! Why those guns could kill people... sigh...:fire:
  3. Lupinus

    Lupinus Senior Member

    Oct 6, 2005
    Upstate SC

    imagin what could happen if evey wally world in the state threatend to pack up and leave if they didn't overturn redicues laws? :evil:

    Ok so it won't happen, but it shows on a small scale what can happen when a buisness stands by its guns and lets them know they wont do buisness there if they have to do it by redicules rules.

    round of appluase for cabelas.
  4. scout26

    scout26 Senior Member

    Jul 21, 2003
    Illinois - The Deadbeat State
    And Daley just about had kittens when he heard this. One of the first cracks in the empire.......
  5. nonquixote

    nonquixote New Member

    Nov 23, 2003
    Cabelas had better be prepared to defend themselves against one or more of Daley's frivolous lawsuits.

  6. PCGS65

    PCGS65 Active Member

    Aug 4, 2005
    Everyone has their price!! Thanks Cabelas!!
    Just like cook county putting another $1 per pack tax on cigaretts. Saying they need the money for medical treatment from cigarettes and to discourage use. Now lets see I've read that 400,000 people a year die from cigarette use. Way more than drunk drivng and construction zone accidents nation wide combined. Yet cigaretts are not illegal? Why? Money......If the government will make enough money from it, it will not be illegal.
    I was wondering if/when cabelas would ever build a store in northern Illinois. That makes me happy. I can't wait to go!!!!;) I better start saving more money.:eek:
  7. SaintofKillers

    SaintofKillers Member

    Feb 16, 2003
    What is Cabelas going to do if Illinois pushes thru their "assault weapon ban" which bans anything and everything that flings lead????
  8. Turkey Creek

    Turkey Creek Member

    Feb 2, 2003
    I like Cabela's but this is just a reminder that successful companies start to do stupid things when they get too big- Putting one of their stores in The People's Republik is just asking for headaches- Generally this type of expansion can be laid directly on the doorstep of the company beancounters who look only at the bottom financial line with complete disregard for sensable business practice- They are the same guys who will fire/ layoff 2000 workers if they can make things look better for stockholders irregardless of what that action might mean in the next quarter- The beancounters are starting to fall into the same catagory with the lawyers
  9. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    Not the citizens and tax payers, but Cabela's: not too hard to figure out that town's priorities, anyway.
  10. cracked butt

    cracked butt Mentor

    Jan 3, 2003
    SE Wisconsin
    Money talks, BS walks.

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