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Illinois Needs Your Help !!!!!

Discussion in 'Legal' started by scout26, Feb 10, 2006.

  1. scout26

    scout26 Senior Member

    Jul 21, 2003
    Illinois - The Deadbeat State
    The are two very bad bills in the Illinois House: HB2414 (AWB) and HB 4693 (Firearm Retailer Licencing).

    HB 2414 is an AWB that so far has 7 admendments pending.

    HB 4693 would effectively end retail firearm sales in Illinois.

    How can you help, you ask ???

    Call some of the legislators below and tell them that you will NOT go the Grand American nor any other event at World Shooting & Recreation Complex in Sparta.

    The State Rep for Sparta is Dan Reitz (D): repreitz@egyptian.net, He'd love to hear about all the tourism money that WILL NOT be spent in his district.

    Here's the Mayor of Sparta's E-mail, send him one also: spartamayor@spartaillinois.us

    These are the sponsor's of these bills, Call or e-mail them and tell them that you won't be coming to visit Illinois and the WS&RC in Sparta, because you don't feel welcomed by Illinois Anti-Gun/Anti-Gun Owner attitude.

    Edward J. Acevedo - Lovana Jones - Karen A. Yarbrough - Harry Osterman - Barbara Flynn Currie, Linda Chapa LaVia, Deborah L. Graham, Sara Feigenholtz, Mary E. Flowers, Richard T. Bradley, Joseph M. Lyons, Michelle Chavez, Charles E. Jefferson, Elizabeth Coulson, Kathleen A. Ryg, Cynthia Soto, William Delgado, Susana A Mendoza, Maria Antonia Berrios, Kenneth Dunkin, Milton Patterson, Calvin L. Giles, Eddie Washington, Constance A. Howard, William Davis, Arthur L. Turner, John D'Amico, Elaine Nekritz, Marlow H. Colvin, Jack McGuire, George Scully Jr., Julie Hamos, Robin Kelly, James D. Brosnahan, Daniel J. Burke, Annazette Collins, Robert S. Molaro, Karen May, Larry McKeon and Monique D. Davis

    District Representative Springfield Office District Office
    2 Edward J. Acevedo 217-782-2855 773-843-1200
    6 Patricia Bailey 217-782-5971 773-471-9270
    54 Suzanne Bassi 217-782-8026 847-776-1880
    52 Mark H. Beaubien 217-782-1517 847-487-5252
    111 Daniel V. Beiser 217-782-5996 618-259-4934
    47 Patricia R. Bellock 217-782-1448 630-852-8633
    39 Maria Antonia Berrios217-558-1032 773-235-3939
    41 Bob Biggins 217-782-6578 630-941-1278
    104 William B. Black 217-782-4811 217-431-1986
    71 Mike Boland 217-782-3992 309-736-3360
    115 Mike Bost 217-782-0387 618-457-5787
    117 John E. Bradley 217-782-1051 618-997-9697
    40 Richard T. Bradley 217-782-8117 773-794-9444
    88 Dan Brady 217-782-1118 309-662-1100
    100 Rich Brauer 217-782-0053 217-782-0053
    36 James D. Brosnahan217-782-0515 708-499-2810
    23 Daniel J. Burke 217-782-1117 773-471-2299
    83 Linda Chapa LaVia 217-558-1002 630-264-6855
    24 Michelle Chavez 217-782-8173 708-863-1766
    62 Robert W. Churchill 217-782-7320 847-231-6262
    10 Annazette Collins 217-782-8077 773-533-0010
    33 Marlow H. Colvin 217-782-8272 773-783-8492
    17 Elizabeth Coulson 217-782-4194 847-724-3233
    84 Tom Cross 217-782-1331 815-254-0000
    105 Shane Cultra 217-558-1039 815-268-4090
    25 Barbara Flynn Currie217-782-8121 773-667-3010
    15 John D'Amico 217-782-8198 773-736-0218
    46 Lee A. Daniels 217-782-4014 630-530-2700
    27 Monique D Davis 217-782-0010 773-445-9700
    30 William Davis 217-782-8197 708-799-7300
    3 William Delgado 217-782-0480 773-292-0202
    79 Lisa M. Dugan 217-782-5981 815-939-1983
    5 Kenneth Dunkin 217-782-4535 312-266-0340
    96 Joe Dunn 217-782-6507 630-355-4113
    109 Roger L. Eddy 217-558-1040 618-563-4128
    12 Sara Feigenholtz 217-782-8062 773-296-4141
    101 Robert F. Flider 217-782-8398 217-428-2708
    31 Mary E. Flowers 217-782-4207 773-471-5200
    63 Jack D. Franks 217-782-1717 815-334-0063
    11 John A. Fritchey 217-782-2458 773-871-4000
    56 Paul D. Froehlich 217-782-3725 847-985-9210
    8 Calvin L. Giles 217-782-5962 773-287-3804
    75 Careen M. Gordon 217-782-5997 815-634-3096
    78 Deborah L. Graham 217-782-6400 708-445-9520
    107 Kurt M. Granberg 217-782-0066 618-533-0296
    18 Julie Hamos 217-782-8052 847-424-9898
    98 Gary Hannig 217-782-8071 217-839-2859
    85 Brent Hassert 217-782-4179 630-739-7063
    112 Jay C. Hoffman 217-782-8018 618-345-2176
    113 Thomas Holbrook 217-782-0104 618-394-2211
    34 Constance A. Howard217-782-6476 773-783-8800
    95 Randall M. Hultgren 217-782-1653 630-682-8100
    103 Naomi D. Jakobsson217-558-1009 217-373-5000
    67 Charles E. Jefferson217-782-3167 815-987-7433
    45 Roger Jenisch 217-782-8158 630-653-4545
    26 Lovana Jones 217-782-2023 773-373-9400
    35 Kevin Joyce 217-782-8200 708-448-3518
    38 Robin Kelly 217-558-1007 708-283-0400
    81 Renee Kosel 217-782-0424 708-479-4200
    66 Carolyn H. Krause 217-782-3739 847-255-3100
    16 Lou Lang 217-782-1252 847-673-1131
    73 David R. Leitch 217-782-8108 309-685-3900
    50 Patricia Reid Lindner217-782-1486 630-466-9791
    82 Eileen Lyons 217-782-0494 708-352-7700
    19 Joseph M. Lyons 217-782-8400 773-286-1115
    22 Michael J. Madigan 217-782-5350 773-581-8000
    53 Sidney H. Mathias 217-782-1664 847-222-0061
    76 Frank J. Mautino 217-782-0140 815-664-2717
    58 Karen May 217-782-0902 847-831-5858
    20 Michael P. McAuliffe217-782-8182 773-792-0749
    37 Kevin A. McCarthy 217-782-3316 708-226-1999
    86 Jack McGuire 217-782-8090 815-730-8600
    13 Larry McKeon 217-782-3835 773-348-3434
    1 Susana A. Mendoza217-782-7752 773-277-7711
    48 James H. Meyer 217-782-8028 630-717-7141
    29 David E. Miller 217-782-8087 708-201-8000
    87 Bill Mitchell 217-782-8163 217-876-1968
    90 Jerry L. Mitchell 217-782-0535 815-625-0820
    74 Donald L. Moffitt 217-782-8032 309-343-8000
    21 Robert S. Molaro 217-782-5280 773-838-1212
    65 Rosemary Mulligan 217-782-8007 847-297-6533
    43 Ruth Munson 217-782-8020 847-622-1048
    94 Richard P. Myers 217-782-0416 309-836-2707
    57 Elaine Nekritz 217-558-1004 847-257-0450
    61 JoAnn D. Osmond 217-782-8151 847-838-6200
    14 Harry Osterman 217-782-8088 773-784-2002
    44 Terry R. Parke 217-782-0347 847-882-0270
    32 Milton Patterson 217-782-1702 773-434-7500
    118 Brandon W. Phelps 217-782-5131 618-253-4189
    42 Sandra M. Pihos 217-782-8037 630-858-8855
    99 Raymond Poe 217-782-0044 217-782-0044
    70 Robert W. Pritchard217-782-0425 815-748-3494
    55 Harry R. Ramey, Jr. 217-558-1037 630-876-0203
    108 David Reis 217-782-2087 618-392-0108
    116 Dan Reitz 217-782-1018 618-443-5757
    28 Robert Rita 217-558-1000 708-396-2822
    110 Chapin Rose 217-558-1006 217-348-7673
    59 Kathleen A. Ryg 217-782-0499 847-680-5909
    89 Jim Sacia 217-782-8186 815-232-0774
    77 Angelo Saviano 217-782-3374 708-453-7547
    49 Timothy L. Schmitz 217-782-5457 630-845-9590
    92 Aaron Schock 217-782-3186 309-672-9292
    80 George Scully Jr. 217-782-1719 708-709-0579
    91 Michael K. Smith 217-782-8152 309-647-7479
    106 Keith P. Sommer 217-782-0221 309-263-9242
    4 Cynthia Soto 217-782-0150 773-252-0402
    102 Ron Stephens 217-782-6401 618-651-0405
    51 Ed Sullivan Jr. 217-782-3696 847-566-5115
    93 Art Tenhouse 217-782-8096 217-223-0833
    64 Michael Tryon 217-782-0432 815-459-6453
    9 Arthur L. Turner 217-782-8116 773-277-4700
    72 Patrick J. Verschoore217-782-5970 309-793-4716
    69 Ronald A. Wait 217-782-0548 815-547-7771
    60 Eddie Washington 217-558-1012 847-623-0060
    97 Jim Watson 217-782-1840 217-243-6221
    68 Dave Winters 217-782-0455 815-489-0083
    7 Karen A. Yarbrough217-782-8120 708-615-1747
    114 Wyvetter H. Younge217-782-5951 618-875-1691

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  2. Bobarino

    Bobarino member

    Mar 12, 2003
    western Washington
    i hate to be a pessimist but Illinois is pretty much beyond help. the people have elected these idiots time and again and now Illinois residents are reaping the rewards of their decisions. there will come a point where the residents are fed up with having their freedoms taken away slowly but surely but apparently that time has not come yet. i'm truly sorry for the members of this board that live in NY, IL, CA, DC. the key is going to be get some rational people elected to office. otherwise it will be only an eternal battle to keep whats left of your rights. as long as Dick Daley and Blahblahblahvich are in office Illinois will continue down the road of Stalin.

    Last edited: Feb 10, 2006
  3. Soybomb

    Soybomb Senior Member

    Oct 31, 2005
    boy 2414 makes me mad:

    (3) 50 caliber rifles have been associated with
    29 significant criminal activity, both domestic and
    30 international, and that there is a nexus between these
    31 weapons and terrorist groups, outlaw motorcycle gangs,
    32 international drug cartels, domestic drug dealers,

    HB2414 - 2 - LRB094 09150 RLC 39382 b

    1 religious cults, militia groups, potential assassins, and
    2 violent criminals;
    3 (4) 50 caliber rifles and ammunition are proliferating
    4 on the civilian market in the United States;
    5 (5) despite the attractiveness of 50 caliber rifles to
    6 criminals and potential terrorists, these firearms are
    7 treated as ordinary long guns under existing federal and
    8 Illinois law, and can be legally purchased in this State by
    9 any 18-year old who possesses a valid Firearm Owner's
    10 Identification Card and whose criminal history records and
    11 mental health records do not disqualify the person from
    12 possessing those rifles but purchasers of handguns, in
    13 contrast, must be at least 21 years old; and
    14 (6) the uncontrolled proliferation and use of 50
    15 caliber rifles poses an unacceptable threat to the health,
    16 safety, and security of the public.
    17 It is the intent of this Act to reduce the risk of personal
    18 injury, death and property damage caused by these weapons of
    19 war.

    If this became law I would have hundreds or thousands of dollars in guns and magazines to get rid of in 90 days or be a felon. Way to go illinois.
  4. BigRobT

    BigRobT Member

    Dec 11, 2005
    North Central Texas
    I see the 50 cal myth is still perpetuating itself. Barrett ought to sue the news producer that did that article. It was manufactured to make the 50 cal look way more evil than it is. Too bad that today's politicians aren't intelligent enough to seperate the wheat from the chaff.:fire:
  5. chipper206

    chipper206 New Member

    May 9, 2005
    Thanks for the heads up Scout. I am new to the sport of shooting and am absolutely amazed at how close to extinction this activity is here in Illinois. The more I learn, the more disgusted I become at the foolishness of these proposed laws and restrictions. I am no fan of politics but one does not need to look further to find examples of their "favorite" politicians ability to reason than their stance on the 2nd ammendment. So many of these anti-gun proposals are so illogical I am left to more deeply question the ability of these representative to "think through" other issues and the effect their decisions will have on our lives.
  6. Jeff White

    Jeff White Moderator Staff Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Alma Illinois
    This is from the NRA/ISRA lobbyist in Springfield:
    I'm concerned that they think they are within two votes of passing this. I know that only one rep from either party (Wyvetter Young D East St Louis) from Southern Illinois will vote for this. Where is the rest of the support outside of the Chicago delegation coming from?

  7. PCGS65

    PCGS65 Member

    Aug 4, 2005
    Bobarino, I hate to admit it but I agree with you. Illinois just breeds corruption and political crime. I do place most of the blame on Daley but as you said the people keep re-electing him and his father since 1955 with the exception of Balandic,Byrne and Washington .
    As far as governers (D)Blago is currently being investigated by the feds and our previous gov, (R)Ryan is on trial as we speak. The state of Illinois should be declared unconstitutional!! Then divided up between Indiana,Missouri,Iowa and Wisconsin. Sorry Kentucky, you guys probably don't want any of Illinois anyway because crime and corruption among politicians is contagious. Then make D.C. a state so we don't have to change all the flags to 49 stars.
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2006
  8. Technosavant

    Technosavant Senior Member

    Mar 24, 2005
    St. Louis, MO

    Rather than divy up IL completely, I think Chicago and its immediate surroundings should become their own state, floundering in the mess they have themselves made. They would just end up dominating the politics of their new region, and not for the better.

    But speaking for MO, we'd be happy to have most of central and southern IL. Madison and St. Clair Counties might need some rehab first.
  9. Turkey Creek

    Turkey Creek Member

    Feb 2, 2003
    Sorry but there is no help for the People's Republik- I've written off the Land of Lincolnoski along with the Northeast and La La Land
  10. PCGS65

    PCGS65 Member

    Aug 4, 2005
    Yeah your right Technosavant, I didn't think that there's no way in he** one could give away chicago or prabably most of NE Illinois. Indiana or Wisconsin wouldn't deserve that!! Let it fester in it's own pool.:evil:
  11. Onmilo

    Onmilo Senior Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    Funny thing,
    Everybody outside this state complains that we elected the idiots in office. Yet when you ask the folks who live here, nobody ever admits to actually voting for the jokers,,,,,,,
  12. Johnnybgood

    Johnnybgood Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    That's because none of us did!

    Blagovitch and Daley keep getting elected by thosse dead people who keep getting up out of their graves at election time. I didn't vote for Blago. I don't live in the Chicago area (thank God) so I don't vote for De Mayor. I am hoping desperatley that the people of Illinois are smart enough to vote Blago out of office and that either Brady or Oberwiese gets the nod.
  13. DHFirearms

    DHFirearms New Member

    Dec 25, 2005
    Springfield, IL
    +1 I've said it many times Chicago and all its umm... "glory" needs to seperate from the state.

    Thats because of chicago, Illinois is almost all RED on the political map except for the north east corner its all BLUE. Unfortunatnly for those of us who live in central and southern IL we don't have near the population as that small area, so "Chi-town":barf: controls the state politically. Something really needs to be done about this. The votes need to be divided more equally amoung the counties and not based on population. I don't know the percentage but the majority of votes come out of Cook county. :cuss: :banghead: :cuss: :banghead:

    Its not only dead people either they drag homeless from the street during elections with the offer of a free meal or cash to vote their way!
  14. Don Gwinn

    Don Gwinn Moderator Emeritus

    Dec 21, 2002
    Virden, IL
    1. Blagojevich could not have won last time without the votes he got from downstate. Blame Chicago all you want, he's a Chicago boy who only got nominated because of his Chicago powerhouse father-in-law, but downstate still helped elect him.
    People were willing to vote for anyone who wasn't George Ryan or a Republican. This is the danger with Judy Baar Topinka this time--that people will vote for her just because she's not Blagojevich and not a Democrat. Those are NOT qualifications!

    2. Ironically, Illinois apparently didn't include the Chicago area when it was a territorial area. "We" extended the border north far enough to get access to Lake Michigan (and increase the population just to be on the safe side.)
    If "we" hadn't, Chicago might be Wisconsin's problem today.
  15. dmftoy1

    dmftoy1 Senior Member

    Nov 17, 2003
    Lexington, IL
    I'd be more than happy to give Chicago to Wisconsin, or even Indiana if they want it.

    I have no idea how Blago got elected . . . . .I voted republican, but it's EMBARASSING to be a republican in this state. Hell, it's embarassing to be a resident when you're talking politics. I think the idiots who are running this state have decided that we're just mini-california. How could you possibly justify an AWB bill when even the gun control idiots said the federal one didn't do anything . . .
  16. foghornl

    foghornl Senior Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    I'll be happy to operate one of the dozers pushing The Peoples Demokratik Republik of Chikago, ILL into The Lake...

    Just like Hizzoner Emperor "DICK" Daley II did to the Meigs Field runway.
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2006
  17. kwelz

    kwelz Senior Member

    Apr 14, 2004
    Henryville, IN

    Those are fighting words buddy. Don't try to dump your garbage in our state. However you are free to take Gary Indiana. ;)

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