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I'm so good at shooting!! My groups are amazing.

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Tomekeuro85, Nov 12, 2006.

  1. Tomekeuro85

    Tomekeuro85 Well-Known Member

    I used to use my PMC once fired brass, but recently i ordered a high quality LE wilson case trimmer, flash hole deburring tool, and 100 rounds of new remington brass. I loaded em all up....

    My old average with my garbage lyman case trimmer and no flash hole work was .75", that is, take all the group sizes, add em up, and divide by the number of groups.

    My NEW average is .49", which is amazing in a completely stock rifle. I have had like 4 groups under .3", and the rest in the .5" range. Biggest and (only one over .59") being .91" but I dont know what happened there. Many many .5ish size groups.

    I am exteremely satisfied. I sorted the brass by weight as well. Now all I need is some match primers and I'll be good to go.
  2. loadedround

    loadedround Well-Known Member

    That's really great shooting and I compliement you on it. Now try to move your targets out to 50 YARDS and see how well you do! :rolleyes:
  3. fineredmist

    fineredmist Well-Known Member

    May I ask the gun, caliber and load?
  4. db_tanker

    db_tanker Well-Known Member

    lmao....dude...thats harsh. :evil:

    Good question, though...what caliber/rifle combo with powder/bullet usage?

  5. JDGray

    JDGray Well-Known Member

    Wheres the "guy patting himself on the back" icon?:D Glad ya found room to improve, thats what makes reloading so fun!
  6. Tomekeuro85

    Tomekeuro85 Well-Known Member

    haha I was just kidding about the "im so good at shooting" My friends and I alwasy joke around with that statement when we play pool. We usually follow it with sometihng like... I'm the best pool player in this school, and Im modest, too. haha.

    Anyways, this was all done at 100 yards with my Remington 700vls in .223.

    Brass was Remington with a 52gr SMK. Powder was H335. I'll give you my .223 spreadsheet that I have recently been keeping so you can see all the stuff I've done to improve accuracy. A lot of the info is on the sheet. if not, just ask.

    Attached Files:

  7. Car Knocker

    Car Knocker Well-Known Member

    How many shots in a group?
  8. Tomekeuro85

    Tomekeuro85 Well-Known Member

    Always 5 shots per group, never less and never more.
  9. .45man

    .45man Well-Known Member

    Nice shooting.

    Now take it out to 250+ yards. You will really see how well the gun, ammo, and shooter's skills are combined to maintain shot placement.

    All the best!!!
  10. Davo

    Davo Well-Known Member

    Good work, how does your savage shoot?
  11. Critter183

    Critter183 member

    The case trimmer made a difference in group sizes? :confused:

    Nice shooting! :)
  12. Tomekeuro85

    Tomekeuro85 Well-Known Member

    I dont know if it was the case trimmer, but the garbage Lyman case trimmer left the case mouths extremely unsquare, leading to what I hypothesize is an uneven release of the bullet. I may or may not be right, but my groups speak for themselves. Whatever I did, it worked.

    My savage shoots good sometimes, but alwasy under 1". I havent really been keeping track of it as much because i have lots of different brands of brass. I can only afford (both money and time wise) to shoot my .223 right now. When i'm satisfied with my groups for .223, i'll buy remington brass for .308 and work on that one until i get consistent .5" groups.
  13. Critter183

    Critter183 member

    I guess if it left the case unsquare, a new trimmer could make a lot of difference. I just couldn't figure how it could be. :)

    I have an old lyman trimmer, but it works pretty good.
  14. YodaVader

    YodaVader Well-Known Member

    I use the same trimmer myself and also perform the case prep work like flash hole deburring and primer pocket uniforming. Also the use of match bullets for accuracy work. The 52 , 53 and 69 MatchKings and the 52 , 55 Bergers are some of what I have on hand now.

    I finally got around to using an old batch of once fired Remington brass and the reults with my 700 LTR .223 have been outstanding. The first time using this brass was with my old VLS and that rifle held my personal record for best group ever. Until last weekend , I was finally able to surpass the VLS record with the LTR , using the same batch of Remington brass! The same Jewell trigger that I now have in my LTR was once in the VLS as well!
  15. Tomekeuro85

    Tomekeuro85 Well-Known Member

    I'm going shooting again thsi weekend, so we'll see if i can repeat these group sizes. I'll let you know sunday
  16. redneck2

    redneck2 Well-Known Member

    I'd guess you typically load one in the chamber and pull the trigger..


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