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IMI "T Z 80" headstamp brass - newbie question

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by LlanoEstacado, Sep 29, 2010.

  1. LlanoEstacado

    LlanoEstacado New Member

    Apr 25, 2006
    Back Home in Texas
    I have some once-fired brass from some Israili .308 surplus that I shot a few years ago. I never had a problem with the 63 or so rounds I shot through my Savage bolt action. Now that I am starting to reload and live in a state that allows centerfire high power rifles for hunting, I tumbled the cases and have neck-sized a few with the idea of reloading them. I can find no flaws in the brass. Before loading, it occurred to me to try to check out the brass online, since I'm a newbie. I found a lot of information about concerns that certain lots of this loaded ammo was bad, susceptable to splitting, being so hot that it would seize in the chamber, etc. Could not find out which lots on any of these posts on different websites.

    I just did a search on the brass from these lots and it looks like my lot number - 6 80 - is not mentioned as one of the problem lots:confused. One of the complaints I heard about the bad lots was "soft brass". I have checked, the empties with resized necks fit perfectly in my rifle's chamber and extract easily. I still need to check the OAL of the brass - should have probably done that BEFORE tumbling and resizing.

    My question is: if the OAL is within normal limits, is there anything else to check...would it be safe to go ahead and load this brass?
  2. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Sep 17, 2007
    Eastern KS
    Well, if you shot them without a problem to make them empty, there is no reason to think there is going to be a problem after you reload them.

    If they were too hot or whatever, they would cause those problems you mentioned when they were fired with the too hot factory load, not your safe pressure reloads.

  3. jonnyc

    jonnyc Senior Member

    Dec 5, 2004
    SE Pennsylvania
    Ditto. As far as I know, the problems would have been apparent at the first shooting. Load a few, on the lightish side, and look for any issues.
  4. bfoosh006

    bfoosh006 Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    Given the history of that specific brass,to me, it would not be worth the risk involved. I've investigated the TZ 80 brass a lot ( as I am sitting on two OEM .50 cal cans of it, and it is beautiful looking brass.. )..... it does not seem to be one specific "lot" , after much debating with myself, I finally decided not to fire it. It just isn't worth it to me to risk damage to me... or more importantly ;) ... my gun.

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