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imr 4064 ?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by x_wrench, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. x_wrench

    x_wrench Well-Known Member

    my brother just bought a new T/C Venture 30-06 rifle. we are considering using IMR4064 powder, with a 165 grain bullet for Michigan white tailed deer. is this powder temperature sensitive? and can it be reduced beyond the 10 starting load? he is going to have shoulder surgery AGAIN, and at this point, they are considering using at least some artificial parts. so he will have to take it easy for a while.
  2. KansasSasquatch

    KansasSasquatch Well-Known Member

    If I were going to do reduced loads I would probably go with H4895. Hodgdon's website says it can safely be reduced to 60% of any listed MAX loads. A call to Hodgdon might be a good idea if IMR 4064 is all you can get your hands on. They're pretty helpful and friendly to talk to.
  3. Slamfire

    Slamfire Well-Known Member

    If you want really reduced loads it would be better to use a powder as Trail Boss or AA5744. You can cut charges on IMR 4895 and IMR 4064, which I have done with cast loads, but the extreme velocity spreads increase.

    All powders are temperature sensitive, it depends on how much temperature sensitivity you are looking for. When powders get cold, they expand less, when powders get hot, they expand more. The extreme series of powders from Hodgdon are advertized as being less temperature sensitive at high temperatures, but without test equipment to verify, I don't know by how much.
  4. kingmt

    kingmt Well-Known Member

    4064 is great powder but I suggest you try a load of Blue Dot & work between 10-20gn. A bullet may be better with a fast powder.
  5. dprice3844444

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  6. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    Like said above, Hodgdon H4895 is the better choice for reduced loads especially since Hodgdon has put out the data. Look Here I have used the data and the 60% formula and both work very well and produce very accurate ammo.
  7. sage5907

    sage5907 Well-Known Member

    Yes IMR 4064 is temperature sensitive and I always load it with a magnum primer, and with a magnum primer it fires consistently in cold weather. For someone who is recoil shy IMR 4064 has the lightest felt recoil of the three most widely used powders for the 30-06 which are IMR 4350, IMR 4895 and IMR 4064. I would suggest using a 150 grain boattail bullet instead of a 165 grain and the deer won't know the difference. If you use 48 grains of IMR 4064 with a magnum primer and a 150 grain bullet the recoil is light and the rifle is very pleasing to shoot. If you work on up to 51 grains of IMR 4064 with a magnum primer and a 150 grain bullet the rifle is near the top of its potential. I do shoot 49.5 grains of IMR 4064 with a 165 grain boattail bullet but the recoil is greater and I wouldn't recommed the load for your brother with shoulder trouble.
  8. exdxgxe4life

    exdxgxe4life Active Member

    4064 was the most accurate powder I had for my now sold Savage 25-06 under some vmax's. yes it is temperature sensitive which is really too bad. I've got a full bottle of it that I have yet to find a use for it.

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