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Interesting article in the NY Daily News!!!!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jeanfor, Dec 14, 2005.

  1. jeanfor

    jeanfor Well-Known Member

  2. The Viking

    The Viking Well-Known Member

    Now my head is spinning. I though that just about everybody in N.Y.C was pro-gun control. And this upstanding police officer says exactly what guns are here for - protecting yourself and your family. I wonder if he will recieve any s#1t for this...
  3. Master Blaster

    Master Blaster Well-Known Member

    From the article

    This officer is surprised that the NY assembly does not want to actually punnish criminals who commit crimes.:uhoh:
  4. Thefabulousfink

    Thefabulousfink Well-Known Member

    It sounds like some pork was added to the bill and now no one wants to touch it.
  5. jobu07

    jobu07 Well-Known Member

    The NRA and NYS Rifle and Pistol purportedly supports the bill as it is written by the Senate and pushed for by the Assembly minority.
  6. secamp32

    secamp32 Well-Known Member

    I'm sure the bill was ignored because

    it didn't do enough to punish legal gun owners who falsely believe they have a right own guns in NYS. :banghead: :banghead:
  7. SomeKid

    SomeKid Well-Known Member

    The cop is a fool. He believes tougher penalties will deter criminals. We all know criminals don't think towards the punishment, it is all about the here and now, and since they don;t expect to be caught, fear of punishment is not a factor.
  8. Dorian

    Dorian Well-Known Member

    This is the kind of thing that is absolutely unbelevable(sp) to me.

    These politicians get it in their heads to push forward laws that NONE of their CONSTITUANTS want or NEED, but when the PEOPLE who elected them actually speak up and try to get the person to do somehting for a good change, they are ignored.

    How does this happen? How is our government supposed to work? How can these ????bag politicians pass their own agenda and laws forward while IGNORING the people who elected them?

    It should be criminal and illegal. It boggles my mind every time I read something like this.
  9. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Must have been a clerical error.

    If he thinks it will deter them, yes, he's a fool; if, on the other hand, he thinks such a measure might keep them off the streets longer, he's possibly correct—although I can't imagine the so-called "criminal justice system" holding criminals accountable for their actions in New York.
  10. Fly320s

    Fly320s Well-Known Member


    You said this is an interesting article. Interesting and funny? Interesting and sad? Interesting and the cop is right? I'm not sure what you mean, please elaborate.:confused:

    All I read was how one cop blames guns for his friends' death and how he wants more laws to control guns.

    What is an illegal firearm? Do they mean a prohibited person possessing a firearm? Do they mean a firearm that is sold in a face-to-face transaction?

    Would officer Adam Frasse put forth the same iniative if his friends were killed with a knife? Or run over with a Buick?
  11. MechAg94

    MechAg94 Well-Known Member

    Isn't this a federal crime as well?
  12. jeanfor

    jeanfor Well-Known Member

    Interesting because it prooves the point of pro gun citizens.... Tough laws against gun ownership does not deter criminal from getting guns and both NY and NJ still have major issues with illegal guns....

    By the way I wrote to the Editor the following email:

    "From the New York Daily News:

    "....New York State's laws concerning gun ownership are among the toughest in the union. But the state's laws regarding the possession, use and sale of illegal firearms fail miserably to deter gun violence."

    "... Frasse launched a letter-writing campaign to get tougher laws passed against gun dealers"

    Well, New York has the toughest gun laws in the nation (with NJ) and still gun related crimes are high much higher than in States where law abiding citizen can carry a gun for self defense. That should really tell you something. The idea that by having tough gun laws you decrease gun violence or crime does not work. Criminals don't care about gun laws and will find ways to get them whether you like it or not. So the solution is simple.... ask the New York representatives to go and see how other gun friendly states do it! They seem to be way more successful than the states that keep going with the tough gun law doctrine (NY, NJ)

    As far as gun dealers are concerned, there are already tough federal laws implemented. Dealers have to have a federal license (FFL) and they can only sell to licensed citizens.(in NY)... Why just not apply the existing federal laws... Why always putting more burden on our citizens"
  13. Fly320s

    Fly320s Well-Known Member


    Thanks for clearing-up your thoughts. I was trying to keep my thoughts independent of yours, or at least what you intended, but it wasm't working. Maybe I should eat more fish. :confused:

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