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Interesting concept in bodyarmor...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by thexrayboy, May 13, 2007.

  1. thexrayboy

    thexrayboy Well-Known Member

  2. Kali Endgame

    Kali Endgame member

    Yep, pretty cool stuff. I saw a video a few months back and they showed a test. Looks promising. IIRC, they fired a 9mm(?) into it, iand it stopped the projectile then returned to its maleable form.
  3. Phaetos

    Phaetos Well-Known Member

  4. armoredman

    armoredman Well-Known Member

    But will any be available to civilians?
  5. tmajors

    tmajors Well-Known Member

    everything is available to civilians. question is can a civilian afford it ;)
  6. Cesiumsponge

    Cesiumsponge Well-Known Member

    Shear thickening fluids have been around for a while in one form or another, its just never found much practical use until lately where it'd be great for body armor in sports and protection in the military and law enforcement. There are lots of inventions out there that float around in the abyss a while until someone finds a practical purpose (the laser comes to mind). They already have consumer products using the stuff. I came across high end ski pants that used some form of shear thickening fluid pads so clipping one of those flag poles wouldn't bust your shin. It was through one of those scientific publication's online articles.
  7. AR-15 Rep

    AR-15 Rep Well-Known Member

    The next question is, if civilians get it so will the BG's and what will it take for our PD's to be able to stop it then?
  8. Fulcrum of Evil

    Fulcrum of Evil Well-Known Member

    Of course it'll be available to civvies - I can't wait until all the courier services are using this stuff - feels like gritty sandpaper, protects like a stack of phonebooks.

    > what will it take for our PD's to be able to stop it then?

    Last edited: May 14, 2007
  9. AR-15 Rep

    AR-15 Rep Well-Known Member

    True, but trying to hit a bouncing head shot running is going to take alot more practice for most officers. Maybe we should just keep it off the streets and give our officers other things to worry about.
  10. theken206

    theken206 Well-Known Member

    "Maybe we should just keep it off the streets and give our officers other things to worry about."

    :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
  11. PercyShelley

    PercyShelley Well-Known Member

    It seems like the materials science behind body armor is getting a lot better very quickly.
  12. 230RN

    230RN Marines on Mt. Curibacci

  13. The Unknown User

    The Unknown User Well-Known Member

  14. Fulcrum of Evil

    Fulcrum of Evil Well-Known Member

    > trying to hit a bouncing head shot running is going to take alot more practice for most officers.

    This reminds me of the shootout some Detroit cops had with an unarmed man in front of a white bronco - they only hit the bronco half the time and utterly missed the guys they were aiming at. I'd say most cops could stand to practice more.

    Now then, if you have some idiot shooting at you while wearing expensive body armor, what's to stop you from knocking him around with a .45? Honestly, it doesn't sound like the sort of thing cops have to worry about. Most criminals don't wear body armor in the first place.
  15. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Well-Known Member

    My question is this: what are armies going to do in the next thirty years when everyone starts equipping themselves with such armor vests?

    Right now, a set of dragon skin (the current state-of-the-art) runs about five grand a pop; far too costly for any army to feasibly equip each grunt with.

    But as technology advances, these materials will become cheaper and cheaper.

    Military planners could face a situation in the near future where multiple hits to center-of-mass aren't likely to bring an enemy soldier down.

    So...after many years, the next infantry arms race will be on, I think. I wonder what the solution will be? Exploding ammunition? Ouch. Energy weapons require too many breakthroughs (exponentially better power sources, room temperature superconductors, things like that) to be a solution. (In any case lasers will penetrate less than projectiles.)

    I wonder if the next generation of small arms, after decades of going smaller and smaller bore, will be large-bore weapons, with reduced magazine capacities, firing what amounts to miniature grenades with shaped-charge warheads? Holy crap, the ammo costs would be outrageous!

    (Not to mention the safety concerns of handling such ammo. :eek: )

    I wouldn't worry about this stuff ending up "on the street" anymore than I worry about criminals wearing Interceptor vests today. Your average crack dealer isn't going to spend the time and thousands of dollars necessary to scrounge such an item from the black market, especially since such things will still be bulky and conspicuous for the foreseeable future.
  16. armoredman

    armoredman Well-Known Member

    Plasma rifle, in the 40 megawatt range.
  17. thexrayboy

    thexrayboy Well-Known Member

    The next generation of ammo is likely to be the "blended metal" rounds.

    Show n tell videos show these rounds as being capable of penetrating virtually all ballistic vests without plate and some with. They retain their integrity when they strike a hard, resistive object and act like AP ammo. Upon striking warm resilient tissue they become frangible and produce devastating wounds. After that? who knows. It will be quite some time before we have directed energy weapons that are man portable unless some
    hotshot comes up with a huge increase in the efficency of energy storage.
    The batteries needed to make a laser etc weapon that can actually do significant damage is far too heavy to be man portable.
  18. Titan6

    Titan6 member

    Ar15rep- Totally agree. And we should ban AR15s for the same reason... oh wait.... never mind
  19. 3rdpig

    3rdpig Well-Known Member

    And just how do you propose to do that? Pass a law making it illegal to own? Pass another law making it illegal to sell to non LEO or non military? All that will do is keep it out of the hands of the law abiding, people that "our officers" don't have to worry about in the first place. Or do you believe that passing a law making it illegal will make criminals, by definition people who do NOT obey laws, not illegally obtain and use it?

    Interested in hearing your plan to keep something criminals would want and would steal or buy from the black market, "off the streets".
  20. Cesiumsponge

    Cesiumsponge Well-Known Member

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