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Interesting thing I noticed about our community here

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Zundfolge, May 7, 2004.

  1. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Well-Known Member

    I've noticed lately that some of the political discourse in the L&P forum has become much less polite in the last few months, and more often then in the past it dips below the standards of The High Road.

    When you click on the little [​IMG] icon in each message a window opens with all the posts made by that member.

    I've noticed that those who post the most polemic and derisive posts don't seem to post in any forum but L&P and General, and often those they are in debate with (and who are maintaining the standards of The High Road) have a larger percentage of their posts in the more technical sections of THR then in L&P and General.

    Just an interesting observation ... I'll let y'all draw your own conclusions.

  2. Art Eatman

    Art Eatman Administrator Staff Member

    Well, for one thing, it's a presidential election year. Passions run higher, then, plus we have the ever-increasing polarization that's going on in this country. Next is the whole package of 9/11 + WOT + Iraq, which creates very strong feelings.

    A Board like this one has a cross-section of gun bugs. Some sections are crosser than others.

    :), Art
  3. Ben Shepherd

    Ben Shepherd Well-Known Member

    I think Art hit it on the head.

    Example: I have a couple of fellow shooters at work that are going to vote for Kerry. They are very pro gun, just not single issue voters. Ufortunately the gun issue is overrun by suuport for a pro-abortion or anti-war view, etc. And I have to admit a few of them have sent me home to do research because they outdebated me or asked a question I had never put any thought into.

    I think we have a lot of posters here that would fit that mold. Fine. More power to them, at least they are involved and have a posistion.

    I think it happens in L&P and GD alot because you can get a little off track from strictly guns into related issues.

    We all just need to remember our standards. This is BY FAR the most civil board on the net, and we need to make sure it stays that way.
  4. atek3

    atek3 Well-Known Member

  5. Ben Shepherd

    Ben Shepherd Well-Known Member

    atek3, notice I am from Utah? So I am a, you guessed it, Mormon.

    Yeah, we are a pretty civil bunch. But I know a few of us that can get uncivil in a big hurry when it's needed.:D

    But there is NO question that we are the most civil firearms related board our size on the net.
  6. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Well-Known Member

    I think y'all missed my point.

    I'm saying it seems to me that the agitators are NOT shooters, but come here to stir up trouble
  7. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, agitators do show up and then the staff takes action. Sometimes we send out the black crow (Russian slang for the black cars that came at 2 a.m. to pick people up).
  8. Wildalaska

    Wildalaska member

    O gawd visions of troikas sending innocent posters off to the Kolyma to work in the mines ROTF.....

  9. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Well, heck, maybe they just couldn't afford tickets to the Multitude of Moronic Moms march in Washington, D.C.
  10. fjolnirsson

    fjolnirsson Well-Known Member

    Just my .02

    I've noticed exactly what Zundfolge is speaking of. I haven't been a member here very long, myself. However, this is the most civil board I have found anywhere on the net. That includes faith based boards.
    In the last month or so, I have seen more than a few rude/inflammatory posts. Some are from senior members, but most seem to be from new folks. Maybe we need a new float about high road standards?
    BTW, if any of you notice me posting in a way not to high road standards, I would hope to recieve a friendly PM reminding me?
  11. Shanghai McCoy

    Shanghai McCoy Well-Known Member

    Not knowing much about many other gun boards,being a computer "noob" I can tell ya that the archery Bowsite community board gets downright UGLY over there.These are stressful times and with all the PC stuff at our various jobs ya can get a tad carried away at the keyboard.This site is well mannered due both to the quality of members and an even handed but firm staff.
  12. Jim March

    Jim March Well-Known Member

    Heh. I checked myself :).

    Around 1/3rd or a tad more of what I post is split between Non-Firearms Weapons (I'm a knife guy too), revolvers and general handguns. Much of the rest, legal/political and a bit of general.

    I guess considering what I do for a living :D that ain't too bad?
  13. MeekandMild

    MeekandMild Well-Known Member

    What can I say? I'm the last living Neanderthal Man and I happen to enjoy the mild polemic available in these areas. Its not as much fun as wrestling wooly mammoths, but its all I have since you guys killed them all off. I'm less analytical than the H. sapians who post in the more erudite sections. So what? It is my birthright as the last member of my species.:neener:
    Last edited: May 8, 2004
  14. c_yeager

    c_yeager Well-Known Member

    Just for the record it should be noted that NOWHERE on any of the highroad pages does it list being a gun owner as a prerequisite for membership.
  15. Barbara

    Barbara Well-Known Member


    Well, I post here mostly, because I don't feel really qualified to post in some of the more technical forums. I read but don't say a lot. I bite my tongue (figuratively, of course) in discussions L&P a lot, because I'm definately a little out of sync with some members here, but I do think that disagreement, as long as it's done with respect, is crucial to us. I don't want to hang out someplace where everyone has the same opinion, either on political parties, or on glocks. You don't learn a darned thing from someone who thinks exactly like you. I think the trick is to disagree while keeping the level of discussion on the high road.
  16. BluesBear

    BluesBear member

    Which is why I do my best to avoid L&P. I barely have enough time to read what going on in General and Handguns. I don't even have time for Rifle & Shotgun. If I were to waste all of my time wading through L&P I'd never have any fun on here.

    I do agree with you though. It does seem that, for the most part, the "shooters" here are very level headed.
  17. Ben Shepherd

    Ben Shepherd Well-Known Member

    Zundfolge, so I hit the 8 ring instead of the X?:D Oops, my bad.

    Even if they are non-shooters, they are here. I am glad. Let 'em look around awhile, they'll just find out we're not maniacs or such. The more they read, the more they can't unread. They have to mentally process what they read, no way around it. They may even get curious enough to actually try shooting. And we all know what happens after that.

    Your concern is valid, but as noted above it usually comes from someone that's a newer member, and they're most likely used to being allowed to be mean or spiteful on boards. Once they really notice that that doesn't fly here, they'll calm down.

    But the true agitators are controlled pretty well by our moderators I think.

    Good shooting,
    Last edited: May 8, 2004
  18. 444

    444 Well-Known Member

    Unless the agitators are the moderators.
  19. TechBrute

    TechBrute Well-Known Member

    Oh man... you went there... :what: :D
  20. Barbara

    Barbara Well-Known Member

    Hmm.. maybe I took this personally because I post here more than in the gun forums? Mostly I'm not that good at the technical aspects of shooting although I'm pretty passionate about our Constitutional right to bear arms (and that may be an understatement.) Still, I do often disagree with people here about one topic or another and will say so if I think it does any good.

    I didn't realize there were non-shooters who came here.

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