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Is 40 S&W the red-headed step child?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by TanklessPro, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. gym

    gym member

    40 is a great round, it has a tendancy to recoil different than 45, I don't care for it as a range gun, but carry one for stopping power. It hits just as hard as a 45. Just makes a smaller hole to start with, the wound cahnnel may be euqal depending on ammo.
    I prefer 45's but my shield has 8 rounds and it's smaller thinner tan my xds, and has a safety, for my dogs and grandkids who enjot jumping on me. I am used to Glocks. I can shoot a 9 or a 45 more accuratelly than a 40, but at distances under 50 feet it doesn't present a problem.
    I shoot 9 the cleanest, but unless I have an open shot I am not dropping a guy with 1 or even 2 rounds. I am lazy and 2 rounds of 40 or 45 will usually do the job, if i hit a chest, or spine, shot.
    Each to their own, it can go on all day, but just ask yourself which you would care to be shot with.
    Handguns are feeble unles you shoot well. Large calibers pull and small calibers require 4 rounds, pick your poison, My ratio is 3 to 1 in favor of 45's, that's after 43 years of carry.
    Also 45's are freking accurate, you can underload a 45 to 185 or 200 grain and stll make a big fraking hole. Two rounds and it's a really big hole. $0 is almost as good if you practice with it. 9 is surgical if you are a shooter. Get a glock 34 0r 35 0r 17llong slide in 9 and you have a 9mm with velocity of a carbine. It's just a big ass gun.
    Almost like shooting a 22.
  2. WALKERs210

    WALKERs210 Well-Known Member

    I liked my XD 40 so much I had to have a seocnd one. Ordering 40aS&W from cheaper than dirt was fast and easy. On the way into Bham yesterday we stopped at a junk store, guy there had 20-25 boxess of 22lr lead nose bullets and right in middle were three boxes of S&W 40 critical Defense ammo. Paid less for the three boxes that he had than special ammo I ordered from CTD. Still seems the S&W 40 is available might be slightly higher but its there.
  3. InkEd

    InkEd Well-Known Member

    It's less popular bit still selling out. I almost bought a .40 pistol a few weeks back but scored some 9mm and 7.62x39mm ammo.
  4. bigfinger76

    bigfinger76 Well-Known Member

    Exactly how is the .40 more prone to setback? News to me!
  5. Skribs

    Skribs Well-Known Member

    I started out on .40, mainly because I couldn't decide between .45 and 9. I've decided now that as long as capacity isn't limited by law, I'm going to go for the highest capacity I can get in a standard magazine, and if it is limited I'm going to go for the biggest rounds I can fit 10 into the gun with.

    I am surprised .45 is low right now, I'd have thought the smaller the round, the more likely people would buy it in bulk right now.
  6. radiotom

    radiotom Well-Known Member

    There's lots of overpriced 40 around here, but it's okay I have lots in my stash. And yes....40 to carry, 180 grain Federal HST to be specific. Nothing wrong with 9mm or 45, just seems like 40 is the best of both worlds.
  7. Aaron1100us

    Aaron1100us Well-Known Member

    No .40 anywhere around here, all sold out.

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  8. dragon813gt

    dragon813gt Well-Known Member

    More 40s in the used case than any other cartridge. And it's been that way for years. I don't have a problem finding ammo so I can't comment in that. It's slim picking but you can get every cartridge. Tue 40s popularity has been decreasing for years in my area. It was the "got to have it" and now it's the "why did I buy this" pistol.

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  9. Uncle Richard

    Uncle Richard Well-Known Member

    If 40sw is good enough for the FBI, it's good enough for me.

    I shot IDPA matches, and most guys use 9mm. The 9mm has a faster recovery time for a follow up shot due to less recoil than the 40sw. I admit that I would be a little more accurate and faster than my friends if I used a 9mm. Also, the 9mm is cheaper to shot, usually 3-4cents / round due to difference in bullet cost.

    Also, I read an article comparing the expansion of hollow point bullets (self-defense ammo) for 9mm, 40sw, and 45. The 40sw had the same amount of expansion as the 45; however, the 45 will have more knock-down-power.

    40's are great, all I shoot.
  10. ku4hx

    ku4hx Well-Known Member

    Not for me. Currently I have one Smith and three Glocks in 40. Lately wife and I have been concentrating more on 9mm since she just bought Ruger's SR9 and SR9c. But her last purchase was an SR40.

    That's puts us back into 40 cal more and likely we'll get back to 300-500 40 cal rounds per month. The 40 is one of those cartridges I find easy to load and fun to shoot. Not the dream hand loader's round like the 10mm but it comes close.

    No such thing as sold out ammunition at my our house.
  11. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    I ran out of reasons to use .40. I shoot 1911s in .45 better. With modern bonded bullets, 9mm is virtually identical in real-world effectiveness. Higher capacity, lower recoil.
  12. RBid

    RBid Well-Known Member

    I recently picked up my first .40. My round of choice is 9mm. When the rush hit, .40 was all I could find. A second consideration is FMJ. Specifically, if things ever arrived at a point where JHP were not available, I would prefer to use a .40 or .45 for defense. Third reason: practicing with .40 makes 9mm follow up shots feel like cheating.

    I have a lot of enthusiasm for the round, and for my G23, but it's still not my go-to.
  13. ku4hx

    ku4hx Well-Known Member

    It's not. If properly loaded, and the loader (commercial or individual) pays proper attention to details such as neck diameter and neck tension, setback in the 40 is no more likely than with any other friction fit, taper crimp round.
  14. g_one

    g_one Well-Known Member

    People who see the .40 S&W as useless or "a solution in search of a problem" are the people who seem to think that there is an answer to the "which is best?" question. The fact is, each caliber has its own merits - the 9mm is this and this but it doesn't do that, the .45 has this and that going for it but it doesn't have this.

    While I wouldn't consider myself to be a 'glock fanboy', I think the .40 S&W really shines in a glock. Something about the design of the gun makes that snappiness perfect for lining up followup shots. My CCW is 9mm but in retrospect I would have preferred .40 for two reasons - one, because it's more fun to shoot and two, because then I could have bought a subcompact in .40, and a 1911 in .40, and I would never need to buy another handgun.

    Having said that, if money wasn't an issue (it is), I would go with the 10mm and just create different handloads for the different purposes I wanted to do with it.
  15. Arbo

    Arbo Well-Known Member

    I shoot 40. Never had a problem with it. I know some come down on it, sometimes with the most ridiculous stuff... but it shoots good... it will stop a bad guy just as well as a 45.. and for me, it was a matter of being able to buy the ammo for less than 45, and it's never hard to find..

    The only 'bad' thing, which isn't specific to 40, is I bought a lot of reloaded 40 before I bought my glock, then was told by a friend back east to NOT use reloaded stuff in the glock. So eventually I'll need to pick up another 40 semi auto to shoot as well. ;)
  16. g_one

    g_one Well-Known Member

    Did he give a reason? I'm not a firearms expert but unless you're using unjacketed lead I can't think of a single reason not to use reloads in a glock
  17. santanzchild

    santanzchild Member

    Glocks do not have a fully supported chamber. .40 has a bad habit of booming in them due to that fact.

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  18. fxstchewy

    fxstchewy Well-Known Member

    Be quiet! don't say anything about it you are going to screw it up...:cuss: just kidding. :D
  19. Arbo

    Arbo Well-Known Member

    Because the glock barrel leaves more of the case unsupported, weak brass and/or an overload can rupture the brass near the back side of the round..


    I know some disagree with all this stuff though.
  20. Fiv3r

    Fiv3r Well-Known Member

    I've thought about picking up a .40 due to the ammo drought right now. I was poking around Rural King today buying some archery stuff, and the only thing in the case was about nine boxes of .40, 10 boxes of .380, and a box of 30-30. Walmart is completely out.

    I've decided I'll just save my money and wait it out. I'll shoot Holy Black or sling some arrows while the hysteria winds down. For me, 9mm is just about perfect. I can shoot it well, it's cheaper to practice with, it has the most variety of bullet types out there when the public isn't going crazy. My Glock 26 is my favorite carry pistol.

    That said, I'm pretty much "out" of 9mm only having 2 or 3 practice boxes left and two mags of quality jhp loaded for bear with a third regulated to fmj. My 1911 is chilling cocked and locked in my safe with my last 8 reliable rounds loaded:uhoh: I went shooting a couple of days before Sandy Hook and never restocked my .45 as I was burning up the Tula .45 ammo that my Regent gags on.

    If I had a .40, I'd be glad for it right now. But, like I said, I'll just shoot .454 hog legs loaded with the black stuff and work on my archery:evil:

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