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Is it abnormal for a FFL to open your package?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by v3r71g0, Sep 2, 2008.

  1. v3r71g0

    v3r71g0 Member

    Say you bought a gun online or had one shipped to a FFL. Is it standard practice to open the package before you get there and fill out the forms?

    What would you say to something like that?
  2. Rustynuts

    Rustynuts Well-Known Member

    Not normal, but maybe their procedure? Mine always let's me open and then they check the gun for the proper serial number, etc.,for the form.
  3. john44402

    john44402 Well-Known Member

    The FFL I use either has me open it, or she does while I'm there.
  4. Soybomb

    Soybomb Well-Known Member

    I've never had them not open it. I was under the impression that FFL's had to log received weapons in their bound book within a set amount of time after getting them.
  5. scrat

    scrat Well-Known Member

    its going to vary from gun shop to gun shop.
  6. ftierson

    ftierson Member.

    The FFL has to enter firearm info, including the serial number, into his bound book...

    It would be incredibly stupid for the FFL to fail to check the invoiced SN against the one actually on the firearm. Sometimes the invoice doesn't even include SN information.

    In addition, the info has to be entered into the bound book with no delay, like the day that it is received...

    So there's no need to read anything sinister into the FFL's opening of your parcel...:)

  7. VARifleman

    VARifleman Well-Known Member

    They have to log it that day, if you're going to show up that day, you can request they wait for you, but if it's not going to be the day it arrives, expect it to be an open package.
  8. Rmart30

    Rmart30 Well-Known Member

    FFL has to either have you open it or them. Most transfers have a piece of paperwork in it for the FFL doing the registering and they have to record the s/n of the firearm.
  9. Flash!

    Flash! Well-Known Member

    I expect them to open it..... they have to verify the accuracy of the serial number and model before they do the transfer.
  10. Aguila Blanca

    Aguila Blanca Well-Known Member

    I have received firearms purchased elsewhere through four different FFLs that I can think of immediately. In every case the FFL had opened the package upon its arrival so he could enter the gun into his bound book.

    I would not expect anything else. He is required to enter it in his book. How can he do that without opening the package to see what's inside?
  11. Bubbles

    Bubbles Well-Known Member

    When we receive a transfer firearm we open the package at the end of the day to log it into the bound book, or sooner if the purchaser shows up during business hours that day.

    In one instance we had a customer beat the UPS driver. He really wanted his gun. :D
  12. 220_Swift

    220_Swift Well-Known Member

    My FFL always opens it as soon as it shows up. He enters it into his bound book ASAP. And he alwyas goes by the SN on the gun, never the paperwork. He verifies it on the paperwork, but doesn't trust someone elses typing. And I certainly do not have a problem with him doing it.
  13. retgarr

    retgarr Well-Known Member

    My ffl always opens it and checks the invoice against the serial number on the firearm.
  14. Z-Michigan

    Z-Michigan Well-Known Member

    Yes, like most, my FFL always opens it up before I see it. I assume he is entering the correct sn into his bound book like many have said. It has never been an issue for me.
  15. Telperion

    Telperion Well-Known Member

    The FFL is required to log all incoming shipments. See CFR 478.125 (e): "...The purchase or other acquisition of a firearm shall, except as provided in paragraph (g) of this section (not applicable here), be recorded not later than the close of the next business day following the date of such purchase or acquisition ..."
  16. hotpig

    hotpig Well-Known Member

    The only reason that some of us do not open the package is liability. Nothing is worse than doing a 10.00 transfer and receiving damaged goods and getting the blame for it.
  17. Stevie-Ray

    Stevie-Ray Well-Known Member

    Every new gun that I've bought was opened in front of me, but never BY me. Gun store, gun show, bought from stock, ordered in, didn't matter.
  18. Zedo

    Zedo member

    The parcel is sent to the FFL -- for you. Legally it's their package.
  19. Dan0076

    Dan0076 Active Member

    I've had an FFL open my box once because the outside did not have my name on it. They opened it to see who it was for. It was all there, so I had not gripes.
  20. Aran

    Aran member

    When I had my AR-15 lower receiver delivered, my FFL only gave me the receiver and the invoice from the shipper, none of its packaging. He also said I made a good choice with Stag Arms.

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