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Izmash AK-107 ready for export!

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by dcarch, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. dcarch

    dcarch Well-Known Member

  2. Caliper_Mi

    Caliper_Mi Well-Known Member

    Very interesting. I wouldn't mind one of these to break into the works of 5.45x39, except that they will probably be running $2k in todays market!
  3. Sam Cade

    Sam Cade Member

    Not going to happen.
  4. dcarch

    dcarch Well-Known Member

    Couldn't they just "neuter" it and brand it as a new model of Saiga?
  5. Sam Cade

    Sam Cade Member

    If that would work they would be importing Draganovs and SVT-40s with "Saiga" electro-penciled on the receiver.
  6. chris in va

    chris in va Well-Known Member

    Yup, not gonna happen. There's a reason why we get the Saiga in it's current form, and it has nothing to do with 'sporting' as they term it.
  7. desidog

    desidog Well-Known Member

    I thought the whole purpose of that recoil system was to get a second shot out of the barrel before it moves. Since they're not going to import them with the full auto parts, it's most marketable feature is a moot point.

    And with a cross-bolt safety, an AR magwell, an AR pistol grip, 1913 rail, I'll just stick with an AR...
  8. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    Apparently Izhmash has designed it for civlian use so i wouldn't see a sporterized version as being too far fetched. Neat design i just wonder if the added complexity will take away from the AK reliability. Anybody know if the Russian military will be fielding these? The AN94 is just too complex and expensive although very interesting. The flywheel is a pretty cool idea.
  9. blackrussian

    blackrussian Well-Known Member

    The AK-107 does not have the feature that you describe. The Abakan AN94 does.
  10. Sam Cade

    Sam Cade Member

    Are you suuuuure?

  11. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    I am. The system described in the AK107 will do nothing to allow for hyper burst fire. The AN94 has a "Blow Back Shifted Pulse" which means it is part gas and recoil operated.
  12. blackrussian

    blackrussian Well-Known Member

  13. Sam Cade

    Sam Cade Member

    You are correct.

    I misread you post.

    Mea Culpa.
  14. akv3g4n

    akv3g4n Well-Known Member

    I doubt anything will be replacing the AK74 any time soon.

    Last edited: Mar 7, 2013
  15. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    You're probably right but the AK12 really was only an external change and the AN94 is too complex and expensive. Maybe someday an AK107 gas system with the AK12 external features.

    Does anybody know if the AK107 is the first gun to implement such a gas system? I wonder if it will be copied by american designers.
  16. Fishbed77

    Fishbed77 Well-Known Member

    Read the last paragraph of the article you linked. It clearly says this rifle is not currently importable into the US. It would have to be "sporterized" similar to the Saiga.

    Personally, I think a semi-auto version of the AK-107 is pointless. I can't see the balanced-recoil system being very useful on anything short of a full-auto rifle. And it's not like the the AK has much recoil anyway (especially with a good muzzle brake).
  17. Sam Cade

    Sam Cade Member

    Even then it wouldn't be legal since it isn't on the import list.
  18. Fishbed77

    Fishbed77 Well-Known Member

    Assume it would be marketed as a Saiga rifle. There are already various configurations of Saiga (and VEPR, for that matter) that are currently allowed. What would stop this model from being considered another Saiga variation?
  19. WardenWolf

    WardenWolf member

    It's ugly, but I like the full-length rails, at least in part. I'm a big proponent of the standard AK quick-release hardpoint system, so I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this. My main concern is that it's going to be rather heavy due to the addition of weight that doesn't need to be there.
  20. Sam Cade

    Sam Cade Member

    The same thing that keeps IZHMASH from importing a "Saiga" stamped SVD.

    Substantial differences in operating system, controls and appearance.

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