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James Bond at the range...Not!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by HI express, Aug 18, 2005.

  1. HI express

    HI express Well-Known Member

    Last week I was at the indoor range. It is my 9/80 Friday so I more or less had the range to myself when a young man in a dark trench coat came in with a briefcase in hand.

    Radar antenna came up. I have a tendency in a previous experience at the range to have a spare gun in a OWB. I go to the range enough times that the owner lets me do that. So I check it to make sure that it comes out easily enough...kept an eye on this turkey. This makes it hard to get really good groups (not that I do that normally), but eventually I work on concentrating on shooting when I see movement not typical to someone shooting to my left. This guy was three bays down.

    The baffles are supposed to be bullet resistant so I slide over to the baffle in my bay to keep some protection between this guy and I and I peer at what is this movement. This wannabee is turned to the paper target so that he has his left side is closest to the target (Full man size and less than 21 feet away). He jumps out into a modified isoceles stance, tries to whip out his sidearm (Looked like a Walther PPK in chrome) from under his trench coat and has a series of false starts. (i.e. tried to draw with his trench coat buttoned up, snagged his weapon in his holster, didn't snick his safety off...etc.) By this time, while trying not to laugh out loud, I had my gear packed back in my range bag and was headed out to the range master. Reported this James Bond wannabee and stood by the viewing glass for moral support to the range master as he went to the firing line to kick the jerk out of the range.

    Before the range master got to this wannabee spy, this guy got off a few rounds..no holes on this fullman sized target...at about 20 feet?

    So how was your day?
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2005
  2. Preacherman

    Preacherman Well-Known Member

  3. Shorts

    Shorts Well-Known Member

    Sounds like he needs more practice in front of his bathroom mirror before taking his show on the road again :eek:
  4. Dr.Rob

    Dr.Rob Moderator Staff Member

    ALWAYS ask the rangemaster before doing any 'holster work.'

    Many ranges frown on that.
  5. DigMe

    DigMe Well-Known Member


    James Bond or James "out on" Bond?

    brad cook
  6. torpid

    torpid Well-Known Member

    Why do you assume he was trying to hit the target?
    Maybe it was a 100% successful performance art piece.
  7. mustanger98

    mustanger98 Well-Known Member

    :scrutiny: :uhoh: Ya'll know what they say about talented amatuers. :eek:
  8. Derby FALs

    Derby FALs Member In Memoriam

    So you get him kicked out without asking if he needs some pointers first? Or caution him that the RM frowns on holster practice? People have to start somewhere and I would be willing to bet that this is his first gun. Maybe first time to a range.
  9. DelayedReaction

    DelayedReaction Well-Known Member

    Yes, people do have to start somewhere. I started at an NRA safety course, then at the range counter reading the rules. If he wants the responsibility of using a firearm, then he needs to act responsible. Running around in a trench coat practicing Matrix moves is not the best way to do that.
  10. Henry Bowman

    Henry Bowman Senior Member

    Yes, and getting him tossed out is likely to alienate him from our gun culture without separating him from his gun, ammo, and the desire to shoot something.
  11. keyhole

    keyhole Well-Known Member

    Carefull explaination, and a gentle hand would work first. If he didn't want to go that way, then the way of the boot!

    Just goes to show ya, waaaaayyyy too much movies and tv!
  12. GhostRider66

    GhostRider66 Well-Known Member

    Hey did you ever stop to think he really might be NSA, etc? I've worked with a few of those yahoos way back when. That should really scare the heck out of you.... :eek:
  13. hksw

    hksw Well-Known Member

    Saw a similar thing happen many years ago in an indoor range.

    Range was about half full and I was taking a little break to load mags a couple of steps behind my stall. In walks a middle aged man, bald, about 5'4"-5'6", long tan trench coat, no hearing protection, no targets. Just walks directly right up to an open stall, pulls out an SW of what appeared to be .45 caliber and fires down range (as noted, no target). Gets off one round, gun misfeeds (saw the next cartridge hang up in the feed ramp). Takes him a few seconds to figure out something is wrong, fixes the jam, fires one round, another jam (same type). this goes on for about four or five rounds then the guy leaves.
  14. jefnvk

    jefnvk Well-Known Member

    No hearing protection with a .45? I made it all of two rounds, before realizing it was one of the worst decisions of my life.

    And that was outside :what:
  15. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    If you don't know what you're doing with firearms, you should ask, not make it up as you go along on a public range.

    I'm personally very tired of people who think guns are toys.
  16. Derby FALs

    Derby FALs Member In Memoriam

    Were you born with this knowledge?
  17. MechAg94

    MechAg94 Well-Known Member

    I would have to say that someone who wants to learn to shoot, but knows no one who does may be afraid to ask. It would probably be better to try to help first.
  18. DelayedReaction

    DelayedReaction Well-Known Member

    I'm all for helping people with developing an understanding of firearms. I definitely wouldn't be as into the sport now if my friends hadn't gotten me into it, and I've found many good people as a result of shooting. Heck, it's even got me to be politically active and involve myself in things I've never experienced before.

    But I still read the range rules. I'm not suggest we ostracize someone because they don't know better, but that doesn't mean we should excuse them. I don't really care if the guy comes in wearing a clown suit; as long as he follows the range rules and acts safely he can do whatever he wants.
  19. horge

    horge Well-Known Member

    Offering help to a beginner is great, but it really depends on the would-be recipient. No hard-and-fast about it really. Some people appreciate help and some don't want it.

    Maybe, just maybe this 'James Bond' stuck HI Express as someone who wouldn't take advice kindly, and with the safety issue involved ---contacting the RO was the best course of action.
  20. Shorts

    Shorts Well-Known Member

    The easy way to tell is they can handle and help, ask them about their gun, duh.

    You: Hey, that's a nice pistol, what is it?

    Him: blahblah 45/9/whatever

    You: Oh cool. I have a blahblah 45/9/whatever. I got it __ months/days ago. You?

    Him: Oh...

    etc etc etc

    Work your way into conversation. Or try to. Right away you can tell if their friendly or jerk. From there you can work in various aspects.

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