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Jose Padilla

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Barbara, May 27, 2005.

  1. Barbara

    Barbara Well-Known Member

    The 3rd anniversary of this US citizen's arrest at O'Hare, and subsequent detention without charges or access to an attorney is approaching.


    Once again: Charge him, try him, convict him and execute him. Or let him go.
  2. Sindawe

    Sindawe Well-Known Member

    What are you Barbara? Some kind of un-patriotic supporter of terrorism?


    If the prosecuting attorneys can't be ready for trail after three years, they ain't got a case.
  3. BryanP

    BryanP Well-Known Member

    They don't need a case. They just need a President and Executive Branch willing to twist the Constitution into shapes thoroughly unnatural and a Judiciary spineless enough to let them get away with it.
  4. Barbara

    Barbara Well-Known Member


    I'm mean to kitty cats, too!
  5. javafiend

    javafiend member

    What's that? You got a problem with the police just snatching American citizens off the street without so much as a warrant and holding them incommunicado indefinitely?

    Whatsa matter with you? Are you some kinda commie-coddling, terrorist-sympathizing, anti-American lib'ral weenie who blames America first? Surely you aren't saying that suspected terrorists are entitled to any kind of due process, eh? Why would you want to hamstring our Fearless Leader's efforts to fight the war on terrorism?

    Why do you hate Bush and America so much?

  6. Barbara

    Barbara Well-Known Member

    It's white guilt! :p

    I'm trying to figure out when it became unpatriotic to care about the Constitution. :uhoh:
  7. javafiend

    javafiend member

    It was about eight years ago. According to the FBI, making numerous references to the US Constitution is a sign that you might be considered a domestic terrorist.

  8. Justin

    Justin Moderator Staff Member

    javafiend, why do you hate the children so much?
  9. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Well-Known Member

    Jose Padilla is John Doe #2

    Last edited: May 27, 2005
  10. Alex45ACP

    Alex45ACP Well-Known Member

  11. Sindawe

    Sindawe Well-Known Member

    Zundfolge: So I'm NOT the only one that see that eh?
  12. dustind

    dustind Well-Known Member

    Citizens are disappearing from our streets without charges or a trial. But we are not a police state. :rolleyes:

    The fact that he is (was?) a potential voter proves that this did not happen. As long as any of us can vote nothing bad can possibly happen to us unless we personally vote for it. Being a political activist grants you complete immunity from state abuse. :rolleyes:

    If any of you disagree with me (on anything, not just this issue) then you have not written your legislator and are wrong. :neener:
  13. Fletchette

    Fletchette Well-Known Member

    Keeping Jose Padilla incarcerated this long without charging him is, by definition, a high crime or misdemeanor.

    Simply indefensible. :fire:
  14. beerslurpy

    beerslurpy member

    You get put on a list of bad people if you want to defend the constitution? What kind of new communism is this?

    Also, what the hell is a "super patriot?" Is that like a patriot that is so patriotic they begin to take their oaths seriously? Maybe the FBI is hunting for super-patriots so they can put them in Congress? We should be so lucky.

    God this country is pathetic sometimes.
  15. rick_reno

    rick_reno member

    It's a not police state until they start housing those that dissappear in someplace like Alaska - or Montana. Until then it's just part of the process of the "War on Terror"
  16. Fletchette

    Fletchette Well-Known Member

    How about Cuba?
  17. RevDisk

    RevDisk Well-Known Member

    You are all tin foilers! Trust the govt, they would never abuse the legal system! Tin foil! Uh, Padilla was a horrible person. He probably even owned a .50 cal he was going to use to down aircraft. Uhm... Tin foil! You people obviously need to wear more tin foil! Right wing loonies with agendas, I swear!


    Honestly, if he's charged with any crime, toss him before a court. Heck, with as many laws that exist on the books, everyone has to have violated something or other eventually. Keep hitting him with different charges until he cops a plea bargain. Force a confession with the promise of early parole.

    Justice these days is bought, not served. If you can hire Johny Cochran, you're gonna walk. If you need a public defender, odds are you're going to prison.

    I heard somewhere that reporting certain types of terrorism cases was illegal. Don't quote me on that yet, I will search around and see what the legal requirements for reporting alleged terrorists detained that happen to be US citizens. I wanna know who leaked Padilla's circumstances, and what supposed legal doctrine is actually holding him. I know that Patriot Act covers indefinite holding of aliens, but I'm not so sure about citizens.

    Clickity, click

    Seriously, I'm not sure what I'd think if I dug up any statutes, laws or executive orders legalizing holding citizen without trial or attorney.

    I truly wonder what the soldiers that detain Padilla think. I wouldn't consider any of the officers holding the 'military tribunals' members of the US military anymore. I'm not sure what they are, but I know they're not members of the US military as they broke their oath.

    What does a soldier become when he crosses over that line and becomes the domestic enemy of the Constitution? Do any of them think "Gee, maybe I'm doing something wrong."?
  18. mrhuckins

    mrhuckins Guest

    I'm afraid to disagree with govenment policies, or be outspoken on them.

    Unless I'm supposed to.
  19. Fly320s

    Fly320s Well-Known Member

    Most definitly "double plus ungood."
  20. c_yeager

    c_yeager Well-Known Member

    While i dissagree with the detainment, and agree that it is a violation of the constitution, the fact that everyone KNOWS he was taken off the street, and that we can freely and publicly discuss and criticize that fact pretty much proves that we arent QUITE a police state just yet.

    If the entire WORLD not only knows that you were arrested, but WHERE you are being held and what you are suspected of doing, then you really didnt quite 'dissapear'.

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