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Just when I thought I couldn't get any more aggravated..

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Carter, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. Carter

    Carter Well-Known Member

    Usually I like to go to the range once a month, but lately something has always come up. Its been maybe 2 months or more without going to the range, and will be another two weeks before I could get to go due various issues.

    Well, the other day during handgun retention training I caught an elbow to the upper lip and nose area from a guy with arms as big as my head. My lip swelled up massively. Urgent care kicked me out saying just to put ice on it. My actual doctor ordered an x-ray. It turns out I have a fracture right below my nose.

    While this heals I can't do any activity that would put pressure on this area, which I assume would include rifle shooting due to the recoil :( . I have an XCR that I've only gotten to shoot two times sitting idle that I can't even use now.

    Do you guys know of any shooting I could do besides pistols so I don't stress the fractured area? I was thinking maybe I could use a .22 rifle since it doesn't kick or maybe use my regular rifles for quick drills within 25 yards where you wouldn't have time to aim (so no face on the stock, just up to shoulder). The ranges I go to don't have any lanes beside me. One is a private range with several individual 25 yard ranges and the other is a friend of a friends massive wooded backyard.

  2. FLAvalanche

    FLAvalanche Well-Known Member

    Or you could just suck it up and shoot your XCR...
  3. Carter

    Carter Well-Known Member

    Yeah, making a fracture on my skull worse isn't exactly something I want to "suck it up" for.
  4. Grey Morel

    Grey Morel Well-Known Member

    Look guy... unless its unbearably painful, your being a little dramatic ("fracture on my skull").

    As an anthropologist, I've sen and handled a fair number of honest to god real human skulls. Most people get hit in the nose enough during there life that the fragile internal bones such as the Vomer and Concha, as well as the Nasal Spur, are warped to comical extremes.

    The GOOD news is, as long as you don't bust the actual cartilage in your nose, you can't really tell with all that squishy stuff over top.

    A small fracture to your Maxilla is pretty tame - and the recoil from a 223 is pretty light. If it were me with an XCR, I would at least give it a try. I don't think you can mess anything up. Even if it WAS painful, your Maxilla is nowhere near anything important. Your acting like you could be disabled by this or something.
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2010
  5. PT1911

    PT1911 Well-Known Member

    Go shoot...

    If we were talking about a 308 and up recoil I would say hold off as that can be jarring and, though I dont think it would cause any more damage, it would cause pain, so I would avoid that.. being a 223, just shoot... it isnt going to cause any damage to your fracture. I have yet to meet a 223 that jumps up and hits me in the face... the sound waves may actually cause more pain than the recoil...

    If you had an issue with your rotator cuff, had a mediport, or a broken strong side collar bone I would say otherwise, but none of those are the case.
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2010
  6. Big_E

    Big_E Well-Known Member

    I'm not a doctor, but I play one on the internet.

    I would consult your doctor first, but I think a .22 would be fine. If its just a hair fracture I think a 5.56 XCR would be okay too.
  7. gdesloge

    gdesloge Well-Known Member

    Grey Morel wrote,"As an anthropologist, I've sen (sic) and handled a fair number of honest to god (sic) real human skulls. Most people get hit in the nose enough during there (sic) life that the fragile internal bones such as the Vomer and Concha, as well as the Nasal Spur, are warped to comical extremes."

    The point that Mr. Morel conveniently overlooks is that all of his specimens with nasal fractures have one thing in common: they are dead.


    P.S. Posted in jest.
  8. Carter

    Carter Well-Known Member

    I reguarly shoot .308 and 7.62x39. I only mentioned the xcr cause its new.

    I'm not trying to "dramatic", just cautious. My intention was to get shooting ideas to let it heal without undue stress, not get bashed for taking the doc's advice.
  9. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Well-Known Member

    Practice firing your XCR "rapidly from the hip" like the Bradys like!
  10. 12131

    12131 Well-Known Member

    There you go.:evil:
  11. PT1911

    PT1911 Well-Known Member

    not bashing... the 223 simply does not cause enough recoil to do any damage to your current fracture... If anything, as I said, the vibrations from the shot may provide you with the most discomfort.. sort of the way humming feels for you now I am sure...

    The truth is, a mild recoiling cartridge such as the 223 will not jar your fracture any more than chewing, talking, or jogging.
  12. russ69

    russ69 Well-Known Member

    Just shoot a .22LR until you feel like shooting the centerfires.

    Thanx, Russ
  13. The_Shootist

    The_Shootist Well-Known Member


    Practice with at least a .22 pistol. I try and practice in odd weather / or if I'm feeling blue because lets face it: most BG aren't going to wait to commit a crime in 70's degree weather with clear skys . Or come up and ask you if you feel cheerful enough to be robbed today.
  14. Bluehawk

    Bluehawk Well-Known Member

    When I was in the Army I did have the cartilage in my nose rearranged for me...still is that way today. Two days later I was out shooting the M14 rifle...just made sure my cheek was the only thing planted on the stock!!!!!
    As long as you're not holding the buttstock on your lip (would make it really hard to see the sights that way) I don't see any reason why you can't shoot.
  15. Tinpig

    Tinpig Well-Known Member

    I had a root-canal on Tuesday and shot 40 rounds of .30-06 out of my '03 on Wednesday.
    Obviously a good cheek weld wasn't in the cards. I adapted to what felt OK.
    You don't have to have perfect form or perfect scores to have fun.
    If it hurts, stop and shoot pistols.

  16. gym

    gym member

    Let it heal or you will be very sorry later. If they say 2 weeks then it's 2 weeks. I rushed back to the gym after spinal surgery way back when, very bad idea.
  17. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    300 winmag wouldn't be appropriate, a .22lr would be fine, but you shouldn't assume that the .223 is a problem without asking your physician about it. That's pretty mild out of an XCR and unless you're spending a lot of time every week shooting the XCR it probably won't do any harm to the healing process.

    Talk to the Dr. and don't make assumptions.
  18. tommyS4

    tommyS4 Member

    Sounds like a good time to take in a little fishing or motorcycling !
  19. Carter

    Carter Well-Known Member

    My Dr. knows jack about guns.

    I tried talking to him about it a little one time and he seemed lost in space. Great with medicine though.

    He didn't really give me a heal time. Just told me me not to do anything martial arts or wrestling related. I guess I'll have to wait and see what the Ear, Nose, and Throat Dr. says other than "put ice on it".
  20. doc2rn

    doc2rn Well-Known Member

    Man up and take the .223, you'll forget all about it after a mag or three.

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