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Kel-Tec Sub-2000 vs. Hi-Point 995

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Juna, Dec 29, 2006.


Which 9mm carbine?

  1. Kel-Tec Sub-2000

    81 vote(s)
  2. Hi-Point 995

    25 vote(s)
  1. Juna

    Juna Well-Known Member

    Which one and why? I like the folding aspect of the KT & the fact that it can take mags from other guns (e.g. Glock 33 rounder). I like the cost & warranty of the HP.
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2006
  2. Jackal

    Jackal Well-Known Member

    I guarantee that the Kel-Tec warranty is better than the HiPoint's. I have owned a Hi-Point carbine and, while it was plenty accurate and reliable, the cheek-slap was unbearable. Every time I pulled the trigger, my cheek was given a nice "SLAP!". I sold it, and am now in the market for a Kel-Tec, come next gun show.
  3. yongxingfreesty

    yongxingfreesty Well-Known Member

    havent shot any of these, but based on looks......the kel tec wins.
  4. Shadan7

    Shadan7 Well-Known Member

    The Sub2000 is a sweet little shooter. I got one a couple months ago, have a few hundred rounds downrange, and love it. Accurate as I am at 50 yards - and how many carbines will fit into a standard briefcase or pizza box? :evil:

  5. Manedwolf

    Manedwolf member

    The kel-tec's ability to fold up gives it far more utility. Plus it's REALLY accurate. I like mine a lot.

    Oh, yeah, and you can pick your flavor of hi-cap mag to match your handgun, giving you the ability to swap.
  6. Andrew S

    Andrew S Well-Known Member

    I will be getting one of the Kel-Tecs so that it can share mags with my 229. If it wasn't for that feature I would get the HiPoint.
  7. BryanP

    BryanP Well-Known Member

    I just wish Kel Tec would come out with a .45ACP version that takes XD-45 magazines. I'd be all over that.
  8. cmidkiff

    cmidkiff Well-Known Member


    I'm in the market for an XD45 anyway... if I were able to get a Sub2000 to match, it'd be a done deal.

    Wonder if anyone has recommended this to them yet?
  9. 50caliber123

    50caliber123 Well-Known Member

    kel-tec's can't shoot CCI Blazer through them, according to Keltec's website. Hi-points can and will shoot whatever you put through them
  10. michiganfan

    michiganfan Well-Known Member

    Never shot the hi point but I do have a kel tec. Love it. Goes to the range everytime I go.
  11. Juna

    Juna Well-Known Member

    What's a good price for a Sub-2000? I'd opt for the Glock version due to cheaper mags & possibility of 33 rounder. They don't make a CZ 75 version, so I'm out of luck there.
  12. Jackal

    Jackal Well-Known Member

    They can be had wholesale for about $250 and usually retail around $300.
  13. gaweidert

    gaweidert Well-Known Member

    I own a Hi-Point 955 in 9mm. Fun and accurate little plinker. Always goes bang. Kel-Tec in my future too as I do own as SU-16A and it had been a good performer too.
  14. Soybomb

    Soybomb Well-Known Member

    Keltec says that because the sub2000 is a blow back design and if the cartridge starts to extract before pressure has dropped an aluminum case can rupture where a brass case doesn't seem to. I would suspect that any blowback 9mm carbine would be vulnerable to that, even if the manufacturer doesn't give you the warning.

    I have a sub2000 and honestly I don't think I'd buy another pistol caliber carbine again just because I'm not sure its all that useful. If you made me though I'd probably go with the 2000 for the magazine versatility and folding.
  15. Kymasabe

    Kymasabe Well-Known Member

    I owned the Kel-Tec...was a great gun and good accuracy at 50 yards. Is it just me or do pistol rounds from a carbine sound different when flying downrange? You can almost hear them zipping thru the air.

    ANyway, my K-T 9mm was super reliable, had the Glock 30 round mag, used to buy 9mm reloaded ammo in bulk from Lancer Custom Ammo and put thousands of rounds of reloads thru my K-T Sub2K before I got rid of it. Also makes a great hurricane bug-out gun as it fits in a bag or backpack or whatever you're carrying.
  16. Jackal

    Jackal Well-Known Member

    Wanna sell it?:)
  17. rangerruck

    rangerruck Well-Known Member

    the keltec was better, but now the hipoint is. the hipoint now has last shot bolt open, and with the atg stock, it is a heck of a lot more comfortable, and ergonomic. Its lonly drawback , at this point , is the terrible mags. I am surprised, that someone hasn't come along, and made some hicaps for them, yet.
  18. rangerruck

    rangerruck Well-Known Member

    only the mag interchange, makes the keltec better.
  19. telomerase

    telomerase Well-Known Member

    Unreliable? Or just low-cap?
  20. Fred Fuller

    Fred Fuller Moderator Emeritus

    Have them both, prefer the KelTec hands down. Both are accurate enough and reliable enough and easy to operate but the KT takes normal capacity magazines that can be selected to match a particular pistol design so you don't have to buy magazines just for the carbine. Folding is a neat feature for a utility gun also. The KT is set up to have a factory optional accessory rail added easily for a white light attachment and really doesn't need any other add-ons for defensive use. For plinking etc. it's fine as is, and IMHO is well worth the difference in price.


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