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Kimbers good for carry or not

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by XDGirl, Jul 29, 2008.

  1. XDGirl

    XDGirl New Member

    Jul 27, 2008
    My boyfriend is wanting to get a Kimber for CC. I was told by a guy at the range that owns a gun store. That if you buy a kimber you have to put at lease 1000 rounds through it before you use it for a carry gun. Is this true or not?
  2. blgoode

    blgoode New Member

    Oct 8, 2006
    I have a Pre Series II that I had to file the slidestop down on before it would run 100%. After thatw as done...she is 100%
  3. Tarvis

    Tarvis Participating Member

    Nov 13, 2007
    Northern Pennsylvania
    The Kimber's I've held at the store would not release the slide using normal force without pulling back on the slide. I'm not positive, but it seems like if it is not functioning properly at the store, it is not going to function properly until something changes with the geometry. I think that a break-in period of 2 boxes or so is reasonable for a new 1911, but 1000 rounds to make a gun run like it's supposed to is horse puckey. It seems like a good 1911 gunsmith could fix the problem in no time.
  4. Dobe

    Dobe member

    Jan 4, 2003
    I don't believe any gun should have to go through a break in period. That's the factory having us do their job.

    That doesn't mean we shouldn't put a couple hundred through a handgun to make sure they have done their job properly.

    I own 5 pre Series II Kimbers. I would carry any of them with confidence. I own one Series II. I am not crazy about the Swartz system, and I have had trouble with it, if I do not fully depress the grip safety..
  5. aji

    aji New Member

    Jul 13, 2006
    Carry a Kimber Ultra CDP II 3". Broke it in with 100 rounds of FMJ and 50 rounds of JHP. It has been flawless.
  6. blgoode

    blgoode New Member

    Oct 8, 2006
    My slide stop was prematurely getting activated bt the rounds in he magazine. Filed it back and its good to go. My EDC in the summer!
  7. rduckwor

    rduckwor Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Kimber's have the reputation of spotty function without a loving touch here and there by a gunsmith when new.

    However, many have them and love them and in fairness, I wouldn't trust any 1911 platform that I hadn't put at least 500 round thru as a defensive weapon - Kimber, SIG, STI, Nighthawk, Brown. You name them. 1911's need to prove their function as everybody has had a shot at redesigning what was an already good design from JMB. Some were less successful than was he.

    <EDIT> That being said, I have a friend with a Kimber at the +100,000 round mark. Once it starts running, they are hard to stop.

    Last edited: Jul 29, 2008
  8. Old Grump

    Old Grump Member

    Jun 30, 2008
    Blue River Wisconsin
    Never heard of any gun that required more than 500 rounds

    Most take considerably less as long as its properly cleaned and lubed as per directions. Do not over lubricate, more is not better and less than 200 rounds will more than likely be all the break in you need. A few trips to the range to get sighted in and familiar with the weapon and skill building will be more than enough rounds. In other words, clean, lube, shoot, repeat process.
  9. steelyblue

    steelyblue Active Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Rio Grande Valley, Texas
    I would say that if nothing happens in the break in period, you are good to go. I have three Kimbers that have over 2000 rounds each with no issues. They shoot JHP and FMJ ammo just fine. I would trust my life to any of them. I've never heard 1000 rounds before, but that would certainly put your mind at ease. I would still carry it before the 1000 rounds were finished if it was my only CCW. Its better to have a gun that will most likely work, than pointing your finger and saying, "bang."
  10. sevin8nin

    sevin8nin New Member

    Mar 31, 2008
    I just read an article from larry vickers recently on shooting/owning a 1911. I don't have it in front of me but one of his quotes was something along these lines: if you aren't interested in learning about the function of your pistol and keeping tabs on all the important parts, then buy a glock.

    My S&W 1911 worked right out of the box and has every round since then, even after taking modifications from me.
    My springfield EMP has never had a single problem, and the fit and finish is amazing.
    My springfield champion operator, while being gorgeous and having a really tight fit and finish, gave me some sass. But because I took the time to learn how the firearm worked and "what made it tick" I was able to assess the issue, and fix it myself.

    I don't know that there's any 1911 manufacturer out there that can make a flawless 1911 100% of the time. That being said, it's more about personal dedication to carrying/owning a weapon like the 1911 the matters, and possibly customer support from the manufacturer.

    I handled a Kimber pro CDP the other day at a store and actually I didn't like it. The thumb safety was way too stiff and the barrel lock up didn't feel very tight. I also didn't like it's recoil assembly and thought the plastic main spring housing was cheezy for such an expensive gun.
  11. tblt

    tblt member

    Dec 24, 2007
    No they are very tight and can jam more often than other guns.
    I would shoot 2000 rounds before I even considered carrying it.
  12. joesolo

    joesolo Member

    Dec 15, 2006
    Cordova TN
    the way I read this at first was more an issue of carrying/using a 1911 (think thumb safety) and not an issue of break-in period. With that in mind I have tried to practice and get comfortable with the 1911s safety but always go back to a DA or DAO gun. Anyway, could the guy at the range have been referring to familiarity with a 1911 platform?
  13. Defensory

    Defensory Active Member

    Feb 15, 2008
    It is NOT true that you have to put at least 1000 rounds through a Kimber, in order to break it in properly.

    Kimber owner manuals recommend a break-in period of 400 to 500 rounds, using quality factory ball (230 grain, full metal jacket) ammunition. They also recommend cleaning and lubricating the gun every 100 to 150 rounds during the break-in period.
  14. Joshua M. Smith

    Joshua M. Smith Active Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Wabash IN
    If it's reliable with 50 rounds, carry it. If, within the first 50 rounds, it malfs, put another 100 through it.

    In all honesty, I believe that shooting it enough to get familiar with it is plenty to break it in.

    That said, I tend to get very familiar with my pistols.

    Josh <><
  15. chieftain

    chieftain Participating Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    The Free State of Arizona
    I don't believe any semi-automatic pistol is broke in until 1000 rounds have been sent down range by the weapon.

    Glock, SIG, S&W, Kahr,Kimber, Colt, Kel-Tec, Walther, Ruger. Browning, FN, they all need to be shot in. When you acquire a new weapon, before round number 1 goes down the pipe, you should take the weapon down to it's smallest components, clean, lube, inspect and if need be repaired or tweak the parts with a kiss of a file or stone to the parts that are not just right. Then lube her up and take that new fangled noise maker to the ranges, and shoot the hell out of it.

    To be trusted enough to fight the weapon, I require a thousand rounds. Some pro's I know, both LEO and Military require many more.

    Revolvers on the other hand, 50 rounds will do it. I am an ole' Smith guy. but with todays S&W's the only revolver I would consider trusting out of the box is the GP101, Redhawk, and the 101. My old original S&SW's, some over 60 years old, I would have trusted out of the box too. But no longer.

    but a semi Auto, no less than 1000 rounds IMNSHO. That applied 40 years ago, it applies today too. In fact I haven't seen an increase in many firearms being sold today, over the weapons of yesteryear. By the way, even one FTF, requires the count to be reset to zero, for function testing the weapon, another 1000 would be required to be shot. Besides it allows you to learn your weapon better too.

    Weapons in general, even rifles and shotguns work much better after shooting a bunch too.

    By the way of that 1000 rounds, you got to suck up the coast and run at least a couple hundred of your carry rounds through the magazines and guns you will carry to fight with.

    THERE IS NO DOWN SIDE TO RUNNING 1000 ROUNDS THROUGH YOUR WEAPON. Some real highspeed guys I know require 2000 or 2500 rounds before they deem a weapon to be fit to fight with. This is normally not done at one sitting. Usually you would want at the very least 4 or so different visits. Each time taking the weapon all the way down and inspecting and checking on wear, tolerances, how things are holding up, more cleaning and of course lubrication.

    But that is professional behavior.

    By the way, if this is a non fighting gun or, as I call mine I don't plan to fight with, a 'toys'.

    Go figure.

  16. Ske1etor

    Ske1etor Active Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    Marrero, Louisiana
    Put it this way, I wouldn't carry a Wilson Combat without putting 1000 through it first. Infact, I wouldn't carry a Glock without putting 1000 through it first. A firearm has to prove to ME that it performs like is supposed to. Just because some guy in a gunshop said it is good to go straight out of the box means nothing to me.

    That said, I carry a Kimber Custom II... and on occasion, a Springfield XD-40
  17. CHEVELLE427

    CHEVELLE427 Participating Member

    Jul 18, 2008
    if i had to put 1000 rounds through it just to make it dependable,
    I DONT WANT IT, but running some to test it and make sure it will work when you need it to im all for


    If I bought the truck to tow, it is for now not later, just like the gun it is to go to work now not down the road.

    I will put a box or 2 through it just to make sure it goes bang and not boom. and i make sure i take it to the range with me when i go. but it will only see rounds i carry in the gun as the others will get all kinds of ammo run, because this one gun has a different job then the rest, it has to be there for me when i need it, 1,000-100,000 most all guns will act up sooner then later.

    XD GIRL you cant get him into an XD?:D
  18. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    Nov 20, 2006
    No manufacturer makes 100% of their guns reliable straight out of the box, none. Too many variables. Any gun needs to be shot some to prove itself. No gun should have to be shot 1000 rounds to make it depenable.

    I have a Kimber CDP II Ultra that I carry sometimes. It has been flawless from round one with a variety of HP's, TrFP's, & SWC's in variuos weights. I have shot 4 or 5 hundred rounds through it. That instills confidence right there. Yes, FLAWLESS from ROUND ONE.

    I have other 1911's from other makers that have done the same thing. Those guns, the ones you don't have to make excuses for, are the kind one feels comfortable carrying. :)

    My XD SC in .40 has been the same way. I take it in the car with me a lot, and if I get out, it goes with me.
  19. M2 Carbine

    M2 Carbine Mentor

    May 29, 2003
    No, it's not true.

    I've got five Kimbers and friends have another nine or ten. The only ones that required a break in was the Eclipse. A couple hundred rounds got them working fine.

    The last Kimber I bought is the Ultra Covert II. It's a tight Custom Shop gun and I fully expected it to have some failures in the first 100-200 rounds.
    I took it straight from the box to the firing line and began counting the rounds through it.
    After a couple days I got tired of keeping track at about 350 rounds.
    And that was with the Kimber factory magazine.

    This Covert is fast becoming a favorite gun, although I just can't get to like the color of those grips.
  20. Vern Humphrey

    Vern Humphrey Elder

    Dec 30, 2002
    Deep in the Ozarks
    My pre-MKII never required a break in. It shot well from the start. But I put about 1000 rounds through it before I retired my M1927 Argentine, which was my previous carry gun.

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