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Kyle Myers (FPS Russia) raided

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by MachIVshooter, Apr 1, 2013.

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  1. MachIVshooter

    MachIVshooter Well-Known Member

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  2. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    Average Joe? Given essentially none of us have legal access to many of the weapons used in the videos i think that's a stretch. Let's also not forget about the murder and the feds made statements about explosives.
  3. FitGunner

    FitGunner Well-Known Member

    Yeah, this might be related to the murder investigation but it is not really known yet. I am not sure that they can go after him for the explosives and profiting stuff. He did not, that I know of, manufacture the explosives but purchased them. I am sure he makes money off the videos though.
  4. -v-

    -v- Well-Known Member

    The charges definitely look like fishing on the ATF's part. "Manufacturing explosives for commercial use/profit"? If mixing tannerite together is "manufacturing explosives" then I guess under the strict sense of the law yes, he was.

    However, the conflicting testimony from the Sheriff's department that this raid was in connection to the murder of his partner seems to present a more muddled picture.

    Wait and see...
  5. Solo

    Solo Well-Known Member

    What day is it today?
  6. sixgunner455

    sixgunner455 Well-Known Member

    You already know the answer to that, but the story broke last week.
  7. LiENUS

    LiENUS Well-Known Member

    Today is April first but the article is from March 29th
  8. -v-

    -v- Well-Known Member

    Solo - sadly I think this is a legitimate news article. Plus, it was posted on the 29th - last Friday.

    -e-: Just to re-iterate, I think this article is legit from last week :p.
  9. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf member

    Dang, they must cater to retards with all their hotlinks to every other word and what words they conveyed were actually worthless to the "issue". and forty agents when all you gotta do is knock on the front door, remove actor/s and secure the premises for search?
  10. CoRoMo

    CoRoMo Well-Known Member

    Here's the article I first read from the 28th... http://www.guns.com/2013/03/28/fpsr...rss&utm_campaign=fpsrussia-home-raided-by-atf

    Looks like this began months ago with inquiries about money. The ATF appears to be in the dark about how YouTube channels make money and the investigation originated around that issue.

    He recently had a video with supposed HE50bmg ammo but in the same video he made a remark that he had packed the target with an explosive recipe of his own. Whether or not these comments in an entertainment context would/should be enough to raid his home and his father's property, I don't know but it seems like the ATF didn't have a whole bunch of evidence to begin with and their raid turned up nothing to add.

    If they are just fishing, it would be like the feds raiding the home of Brad Pitt because of some comments he made while portraying a fictional character in a video.
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  11. tyeo098

    tyeo098 Well-Known Member

    So if I film myself building an AR and host the how-to on youtube, I'm manufacturing firearms for profit without a license.

    Bovine Fecal Matter.

    I also pretty sure the laws 'DEALING IN THE BUSINESS OF' mixing tannerite and filming it is not being in the business of mfg explosives. Profit has nothing to do with it.
  12. Steel Horse Rider

    Steel Horse Rider Well-Known Member

    Making black powder at home, if you allow others to use it, could possibly make you in violation. They will kill us by a thousand laws, sooner or later you too will be in violation.
  13. MachIVshooter

    MachIVshooter Well-Known Member

    My point is that they've been going after high profile people in the gun crowd left and right lately.

    "We're watching, and we will bust you, even if we're not sure you've broken any laws"
  14. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Lets avoid giving HuffPost any traffic if we can.

    Here's the article from Athens GA.

  15. mrvco

    mrvco Well-Known Member

    I was reading about this yesterday... it is an interesting situation.

    • The guy who was murdered, Keith Ratliff, had a Class 10 FFL.
    • The star of the videos, Kyle Myers, is an American faking a Russian accent (at first I thought the Russian Mafia might have been upset with his act and knocked off the wrong guy).
    • The federales tossed his property and reportedly found no infringing firearms or explosive materials, nor the "murder weapon".
    It "sounds like" the federales think something fishy is going on, but can't prove anything and are trying to use "You made money on a YouTube video of an otherwise legal explosion" like they use "Tax Evasion" charges to prosecute organized criminals and other people who get sideways with them that they can't prosecute otherwise.
  16. Texan Scott

    Texan Scott Well-Known Member

    If profiting from filming an explosion equates to "explosives manufacture for profit", Hollywood is in deep doodoo....

    Just sayin'.
  17. esheato

    esheato Well-Known Member

    Don't be ridiculous, they'll be wavered...
  18. Texan Scott

    Texan Scott Well-Known Member

    You're not suggesting the feds would enforce the law selectively, are you? That's crazy talk! If tgey did that, the next thing you know, they'd be selectively enforcing drug law, or immigration ...

    There is still, in this country, such a thing as the rule of law and equal protection under the law.... isn't there?
  19. jerkface11

    jerkface11 Well-Known Member

    Lol yeah right
  20. tarosean

    tarosean Well-Known Member

    Quite certain they have the necessary permits.

    Speaking of, the ATF really started cracking down on businesses who use explosives over the last 5yrs or so. Its kinda sad when your average joe reloader can keep and store more explosive material than a business that depends on it for its operations.. i.e. Cutters and Perforating Guns in the Oil and Gas Industry
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