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Lawsuit aims to test Iowa's concealed weapons law

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by CountGlockula, Nov 5, 2008.

  1. CountGlockula

    CountGlockula Well-Known Member


  2. BMacklem

    BMacklem Active Member

    I would hope this goes to the supreme court, and then it clarifies that no permits are needed period....
    and then goes so far as to incorporate into the states....

    I know.. wishful thinking, but in Wisconsin we need something like this to give us back SOMETHING that Govenor Doyle keeps from us here all the time.
  3. Mike U.

    Mike U. Well-Known Member

    Police are there to enforce the law, and not to arbitrarily decide whether a law abiding citizen is allowed to exercise their GOD Given AND Constitutional Given Right to self defense or not.

    I pray this case is won in grand fashion.
  4. briney11

    briney11 Well-Known Member

    We had a law get through the house earlier this year that would make the law the same in every county and required the sheriff to give a reason in writing for denying a permit but the senate killed it. They wouldn't even let it get on the floor. Right now it's a county by county thing. One county you sit through a class take a test as a group, pass a background check and you got it. No shooting, next county, the sheriff doesn't give permits to anyone. Its all based on the beliefs of each sheriff. I'm in one of the lucky counties.
  5. matt9052

    matt9052 Well-Known Member

    I thought that it has been getting easier to get a permit. 3 years ago or so, I couldn't get a permit for the life of me. Last march they almost forced a application on me when I just wanted a purchase permit. It is still a shall issue state though.

    I am also excited because this is the first local news I've seen on THR. It's great to live in the middle of nowhere.
  6. CountGlockula

    CountGlockula Well-Known Member

    matt9052 - no one gets left behind! :)
  7. Mike U.

    Mike U. Well-Known Member

    Wait a sec! If it's a "shall Issue" state, why does anyone need the permission from the desk jockey politico sheriff to get a CCW?

    We're a "Shall Issue" state here in Fla. All I have to do is fill out the app., take a safety course, pass the B/G check and pay my processing fee. Done deal.

    Now, I've been told you have to get permission from the Police Commisioner to get a Class III Weapons Permit and join some silly-ass Class III club, which is wrong on ALL counts if it's true.
    Which, honestly, I've never checked it out for myself.
    I don't have a spare $15,000.00 to join the full-auto club, so why bother?
  8. zoom6zoom

    zoom6zoom Well-Known Member

    Not if the whim of a bureaucrat can deny it.
  9. hereiamnia

    hereiamnia Member

    Iowa is a "May Issue" state. And alot of the time the local sherriffs will put enough restrictions on your CCW to make it almost worthless.
  10. CountGlockula

    CountGlockula Well-Known Member

    Are you guys required to have a "Good Cause" statement?

    We need to have a Good Cause reason here in CA, but that good cause cannot be protection, nor 2A right. It has to be something like being a lawyer or jewelry owner that transports valuable items.

    You may POSSIBLY acquire one, depending on the county you live in...say less than 200,000 pop.
  11. matt9052

    matt9052 Well-Known Member

    May issue. my mistake. I knew what I wanted to say and then typed the wrong thing.
  12. hereiamnia

    hereiamnia Member

    We have to give a reason for a CCW. My sheriff will not accept self defense as a reason. He will only accept target shooting and hunting as reasons. There are 98 other sheriffs with each having his own requirements. Some counties the sheriff will not trust his own county's population, but has to honor a CCW from another county. It's a ridiculous system we are trying to change.
  13. Mike U.

    Mike U. Well-Known Member

    Not a prob. :)
    I hope you guys can get it remedied by turning Iowa into a "Shall Issue" state.
    It's the right thing to do.
  14. hereiamnia

    hereiamnia Member

    At Iowacarry.org we are trying to do just that. But it's going to be a fight.
  15. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member

    Well the fact that he was first permitted (and nothing happened afterwards) and then denied for no apparent reason should help his cause.

    Now if we find out he had something criminal happen in between there (I think unlikely) that changes everything.

  16. hereiamnia

    hereiamnia Member

    In Iowa the Sheriff has the right to deny a CCW to whoever he wants. Does not have to be any reason given. Totally up to him. Even if the background check is ok, the sheriff can say no. And they can take away the CCW just as easy.
  17. enfield303

    enfield303 Well-Known Member

    I lived in Story county for 8 years(home of ISU). NO permits issued. The Sheriff even brags that he only issues 2-3 a year. moved to Polk county, got my permit the next month. Welcome to Iowa.
  18. X-Rap

    X-Rap Well-Known Member

    Got my first permit there when I was 18. It used to be just a pink duplicate piece of paper back then. We had to sit through a session with the Sheriff, it was Phil Nelson in Clay county. The guy was pretty much old school but even then he said the only reason he would state on the permit was hunting, trapping and target. Said the only other type at the time was the kind he gave his deputies and other LE.
    Hope you guys get shall issue and reciprocity with Colorado.

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