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Lee fcd for 35 rem?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by hogshead, Sep 19, 2009.

  1. hogshead

    hogshead Well-Known Member

    I am reloading for 35 rem 37.5 gr Varget 200 gr. hdy rn Just wondering whether I should just crimp when I seat bullet or use fcd any advise would be appreciated.
  2. hogshead

    hogshead Well-Known Member

  3. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    Any rifle FCD users out there that can help hogshead out?

    Everybody glued to football about now? ;)

    The Tide is on the SEC channel today, which I don't get. :(

    MMCSRET Well-Known Member

    I always crimp in a separate operation on rifle rounds, especially the older designs that have traditionally thinner walls. It doesn't have to be the LFC, it can be the seating die readjusted to "only" crimp after seating. If you are loading 35 Remington for a box magazine rifle you may want to experiment with not crimping. I have loaded the round for use in a Remington model 30 that worked very well without crimping.
    What is "football"? I don't watch tv much, too much fun with guns, I guess.
  5. ranger335v

    ranger335v Well-Known Member

    The purpose of the rifle FCD is to insure good crimps on cases that aren't precisely the same length. It works.
  6. BigJakeJ1s

    BigJakeJ1s Well-Known Member

    Lee Collet type FCDs for rifle and bottleneck pistol cartridges are well worth the cost and the extra step, if you need to crimp. Wish they made collet type crimpers for straight wall pistol cartridges too.

  7. David Wile

    David Wile Well-Known Member

    Hey Hog,

    I started loading for a 35 Remington about 45 years ago. I started with a Lyman 2-die set back then, and I am still using the same dies. I always use a round nose bullet because of the tubular magazine, and the bullets I use always have a crimping cannelure. I seat and crimp the bullet in one step. I learned a long time ago how to adjust the die properly so seating and crimping can be done in one step, and done properly. My crimp is a simple roll crimp that only seats the mouth in the cannelure. It does not bite into the jacket and deform the bullet. I wouldn't think of using a Lee FCD when the die I got 45 years ago still works just fine. Whatever grain bullet you choose to use, I would surely recommend a round nose and a crimping cannelure if it is being used in a tubular magazine rifle. I don't like the idea of using a Lee FCD to make my own cannelure by deforming the bullet. If you are not using the cartridges in a tubular magazine, you really don't need any crimp at all.

    Best wishes,
    Dave Wile
  8. GooseGestapo

    GooseGestapo Well-Known Member

    I you're crimping enough with the FCD to "make a cannulure on the bullet" you're way-way over crimping.

    Use the FCD with the cannulure. Most .35Rem's have a very short lead in the chamber. No point in seating long. Most .35's aren't BR rifles, and I've never noticed any improvement in long seating.

    I even use the FCD to "lightly" crimp .22Hornet with bullets w/o cannulures. It somewhat improves the bullet run-out and improves accuracy.... about 1/4-1/2moa typically. I do this because I use a Lyman M-die to slightly expand the case neck to further improve seated bullet concentricity. This prevents the "excentric neck buldge" due to a slightly "cocked" seated bullet.
  9. hogshead

    hogshead Well-Known Member

    Shooting in a Marlin 336 Didnt get to shoot my starter loads yesterday ,went horse riding shot my cap n ball. Thanks for the advice think Il use the collet as my bullets have a cg. I was just worried about the tube mag and coming unseated. I really like the looks of the crimp. Just not familar with it.
  10. ranger335v

    ranger335v Well-Known Member

    "I don't like the idea of using a Lee FCD to make my own cannelure by deforming the bullet."

    We have basically two bullet choices for the 336 in .35; Remington and Hornady's 200 RNs. Both have a cannalure.

    The Rem (bulk, from MidwayUSA) is the better choice; it's MADE for that cartridge! Hornady's jacket it a bit thicker for use with bigger, faster cartridges so it's not as reliable for expansion at .35 R speeds.
  11. hogshead

    hogshead Well-Known Member

    Dont like the core lokt had one seperate on a bear shoulder at 10 yards .He wasnt happy ran straight up for about a 1/4 mile killed 2 dogs .my buddy finaly killed him with 4 more shots 30/30 . I autopsied him found the core about two inches past the top of his shoulder broke off a piece about like a credit card the jacket was in his tenderloin. 363 # lb boar. I use this 35 for bear hunting want all the penatration I can get out of this load without solids. Even considered them. Had issues with the leverevoloution too but thats in another post.Think Im gonna get flamed on the corelokt critism or what.
  12. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    I am a big fan of Remington Core-Lokt bullets, but it is what is is. It must have been to close with too much velocity and too tough a target for them.

    The right bullet for the right job. Sounds like you need a tougher bullet. Hogs are real tuff, and cranky too.

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