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lever action selection...read posting before polling

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by kmrcstintn, Apr 29, 2007.


which .30 caliber/7.62 lever action tickles your fancy

Poll closed May 14, 2007.
  1. Marlin 336C in .30-30

    47 vote(s)
  2. Browning BLR in .308

    32 vote(s)
  1. kmrcstintn

    kmrcstintn Well-Known Member

    I have hit an empass of sorts in trying to select a lever action for 'all around' hunting longarm for medium to medium/large game for the majority of my remaining adult life; I have selected a lever action as the platform (rugged, classic design that allows quick followup shots and inherently accurate) and I have selected a .30/7.62 caliber (ammo availability and ability to withstand recoil ); I would high mount a good quality scope on see throughs to allow use of iron sights in a pinch; my primary game would be PA whitetail and PA black bear; here are my choices:

    Marlin 336 in .30-30; perhaps the "C" model that offers the walnut wood for a touch of class; tube magazine; cross bolt safety

    Browning BLR in .308 w/ pistol grip; blued and walnut; drop free box magazines; articulating hammer for safety

    ***I am not a fan of Winchester lever actions and not a choice for me***

    I prefer the lever action have a pistol grip since it is more comfortable and ergonomic for my hand; the higher price of the Browning is not really a deterrant since this particular purchase is an investment and not a fly-by-night purchase that would be sold to finance another gun later on...

    which one and why...thanks
  2. Clipper

    Clipper Well-Known Member

    I like the browning, as it has a turn-bolt design that will be more solid and accurate, and you don't have to buy special ammo for it if you want pointed bullets. .308 gives much longer effective shooting ranges and allows you to plink with cheaper milsurp ammo if you wish, and there's no denying the superior fit & finish. The trigger moves with the lever, making it impossible to pinch your finger. too!

    However, I would recommend a good set of QD mounts instead of see-thrus. Low QDs will let you maintain a proper cheekweld instead of raising up off the stock to see your crosshairs...Never did like see-thrus...
  3. rbernie

    rbernie Well-Known Member

    I like 308, and it's clearly more powerful. But in the end, there's not much that a 308 can do inside of 200-250 yards that a 30-30 can't also do. Frankly, parts and service and general longevity of design favor the Marlin.

    In my household, the BLR would be a pet and the Marlin would be a workhorse. I voted for the workhorse.
  4. chad1043

    chad1043 Well-Known Member

    The Marlin 30-30 has been around and killing everything for a long, long time. There are loads of people that have them. You can buy 30-30 ammo anywhere. The new ammo from leverevolution makes the 30-30 a 250-300 yard rifle. You can find a lot of extras for the marlin platform...

  5. dakotasin

    dakotasin Well-Known Member

    marlin 336 in 35 rem would be my choice. barring that, marlin 336 in 30-30 would be my 2nd choice.

    however, this:
    is not a good idea.
  6. Brian Williams

    Brian Williams Moderator Emeritus

    For PA "large" game I would get a Marlin and put a Lyman receiver sight on it. I dislike scopes on leverguns.
  7. Avenger29

    Avenger29 Well-Known Member

    The Marlin is a very high quality rifle. One of the things I like the most about it is the easy dissassembly for cleaning. And it is made in the USA.
  8. H&Hhunter

    H&Hhunter Moderator

    For your stated purpose the BLR would be the most practical choice. However I would very strongly recommend that you NOT put see through rings on any rifle. They completely mess up the scope mount, it is WAY to high to be able to get a solid cheek weld therefore destroying much of your accuracy and shooting ability with the scope. And they make the sight picture on iron sights clumsy at best unusable at worst. Basically see through rings are for tourists not hunters.

    The proper way to go about this is to get a quality low power variable scope that is mounted low to the bore like it should be. You should always walk around with the scope on the lowest setting so if you need it in a hurry for a snap shot you are covered if you have a long shot you'll have the time to turn it up.

    If the scope goes titts up simply take it off and use the iron sights as a back up.

    I recommend the Leopuld VX III in a 1.75X6 On 1.75 it is just about as fast and wide as an iron sight and on 6 it's a highly usable long range scope.
  9. Rangr44

    Rangr44 Well-Known Member

    The Marlin.
    If, for no other reason, than it's about 500% easier with it, to remove the bolt in order to properly clean the barrel from the rear - unlike the BLR.

    [Open the bolt/lever halfway, remove the lever pivot screw, and withdraw the bolt being sure to keep track of the ejector located in the left receiver wall/bolt raceway.]

    It's also simpler to peep, if you wish - most requiring no front sight height change to zero, if you do so.
    A XS LeverScout mount allows scoping, and keeping a peep, at the same time.

    IMHO, see-through scope rings are an abomination, good for use mostly to raise the scope body for use as a carrying handle, and not much else.
    When a used gun is seen for sale, with see-throughs on it, it's usually thought that the gun was owned by a tyro, and the price mentally discounted so the new owner could refit the scope properly.
  10. SwampWolf

    SwampWolf Well-Known Member

    Like Mr. Williams, I believe the handling qualities and general aesthetics of a classic lever-action rifle/carbine are adversely compromised with the addition of a scope. And, as others have noted, this degradation in handling qualities is only compounded with the addition of "See-Thru" mounts. Good (Lyman, Williams or Redfield) receiver sights are the way to go if it's white-tails or black bears you're after.

    I do have a couple of entirely personal caveats about putting a scope on a lever : imo, appropriate candidates are the Savage 99, the Winchester 88, the Sako Finnwolf and the Browning BLR. To me, these rifles "look" (pun intended!) ok with a scope. In fact, because I happen to think that the BLR (with the possible exception of the old Winchester 1895) is the most out-of-proportion, ungainly looking, lever-action rifle ever made, its appearance is probably enhanced with the addition of a scope.

    Before the hailstorm is ignited, I remind you: these are personal, subjective opinions only! I absolutely cannot defend these positions with any objective, empirical data but they are integral with my belief systems and I'm too old to change! :evil:
  11. Eightball

    Eightball Well-Known Member

    I am not a "dyed in the wool" Marlin nut, and have had experience with both platforms (in fact, I sell both of them at my job, though the BLR we have is in .30-06....considered that an option as of yet?). The Browning is the only platform that will give you the ability to shoot a modern, high-power rifle cartridge out of a lever action design, the Marlin cannot. The .30-30 doesn't have the "reach out and touch" power that a .308 does, but then again I do not live in your area and cannot possibly know the average viewdistance that you see where you hunt. I DO know that the Browning design is more consusive to a good scope mounted on top, because at the ranges that that rifle is perfect for (far beyond the effective range of the .30-30), that scope will be very handy, and lends itself to the mounting of a nicer scope (since it will be more useful/depended upon for optical clarity at longer ranges). The drawback to the browning is potentially the price (which isn't a factor to you), and a rather "different" feel when the action pushes back on the bolt (as compared to other designs); but the Marlins have always felt "clunky" to me (kinda like trying to shift gears on a double-clutch dump-truck from a standstill), so there you go. That is effectively my "professional" opinion, because yes, I sell those guns for a living. YMMV, but the Browning is the clear winner in my book.
  12. BADUNAME13

    BADUNAME13 Well-Known Member

    Savage 99 in .308 LOL!

    But since that wasn't an option:
    I voted for the Browning.
    Why: It's a .308 and that seems to be the best choice given your restrictions.

    I do not own one and actually own a Marlin 30-30, but a buddy has a 7mm08 Browning which has impressed me.
  13. Vern Humphrey

    Vern Humphrey Well-Known Member

    As you're probably aware, a new cartridge, the .308 Marlin Express has just been announced. This cartridge is offered in the 336 Marlin and just about duplicates the .308 Winchester. With the new LeveRevolution pointed bullets and loads, it makes the 336 into a really viable all-around hunting rifle.
  14. Sistema1927

    Sistema1927 Well-Known Member

    You said that money wasn't an issue, so...

    ...buy them both.

    (You know that you want to.)
  15. 351 WINCHESTER

    351 WINCHESTER Well-Known Member

    They are both fine rifles. You can't go wrong with the marlin or the browning. That being said, I would put on my winter hunting clothes and see which one fit's you the best. I've found that browning rifles are too long for me (the stock). In my opinion both calibers will do the job just fine. The only advantage I see in the browning is perhaps better accuracy, but most deer are shot at relatively short range. Shoulder both rifles and you will probably see that the marlin comes up quicker.
  16. Gustav

    Gustav Well-Known Member

    For hunting and shooting beyond 250 plus yards the Browning in .308
    For nostalgia and pure Americana the Marlin gets the vote.
    IIRC Miroku in Japan makes Brownings.
    Money no object get both and set the Browning up with a scope and the Marlin with a Lyman or XS sight and a Galco butt cuff.
  17. H&Hhunter

    H&Hhunter Moderator

    For pure Americana I'd also find a neat older M-99 Savage in .308. They are FANTASTIC rifles.
  18. kmrcstintn

    kmrcstintn Well-Known Member

    okay y'all...seems I need to clarify...I didn't state that money was no object and that I could afford both the Marlin and the Browning...I stated that the increased price of the Browning was not a deterrant...I'm talking @ $400 difference...not unlimited funding...quit assuming that I could have both! :banghead:

    Thank you!
  19. 3 gun

    3 gun Well-Known Member

    Both are great rifles. 308 will do anything 30-30 will and more. Get the Browning.
  20. Ned Flangers

    Ned Flangers Well-Known Member

    Another vote for the .308 Marlin Express. No experience with them, but the ballistics look good.

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