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Looking for a handgun

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Beskytte, Aug 1, 2008.

  1. Beskytte

    Beskytte Well-Known Member

    I'm new to this forum, my friend recommended it since he got on and he just bought his first handgun (a CZ75b-SA). I have a couple different choices, but I'll probably end up only owning three handguns. If I don't decide I'll become some collector and end up buying 30 of them and using all my money on them. So you can see why I need to decide now.... Anyway, I have some time to decide since I'll be buying a SKS soon, for deer hunting, almost that time again.

    My top choices for handguns are:
    CZ possibly SP-01
    Taurus PT-92
    Taurus PT-24/7 in .45
    Kel-Tec PF9 for ccw
    FN Five-Seven
    Baby Eagle probably in .45
    Edit: two more FNs, HP MKIII and the FNP9 (mostly SAO)

    Also, a couple others I wanted but will just end up being collectors if I buy them:
    Luger P08
    Calico (might end up owning a calico rifle)

    I was leaning towards the CZ SP-01. Truthfully, the deal breaker is whether the mags are interchangeable between this and the CZ75b-SA (for emergency situations). Also, I wanted the tactical block with the bayonet...
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2008
  2. Chipperman

    Chipperman Well-Known Member

    Good one!

    Anyway, Welcome to THR. If you continue to hang around here, that sentiment will go right out the window.

    Have you tried out all or some of those choices? You need to see what fits your hands best and what you shoot well before you choose. For ME, I'd choose the CZ first off that list, but every shooter has different preferences.
  3. jdc1244

    jdc1244 Well-Known Member

    I have an SP-01 and can recommend it; I’d shy away from the Taurus.
  4. CountGlockula

    CountGlockula Well-Known Member

    Welcome aboard!

    Chip has it correct:
    How much pistol experience do you have, if you don't mind me asking?

    The reason why, is that a lot of first time buyers actually purchase through emotions rather than wisdom. In the end, those emotional purchases end up a regret.
  5. Pat-inCO

    Pat-inCO Well-Known Member

    HAHAHAHAHA! Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated!

    DO NOT buy a 1911. Once I did that . . . . . .
    well, I've been virtually broke ever since. :D

    CZs are good, Dan Wesson CBOB (also CZ) is very good. I LOVE Kimbers, and so it goes.

    Resistance is futile. You WILL be assimilated. ;)
  6. capttom

    capttom Well-Known Member

    Like chipperman, I appreciate the 3-gun resolve! After getting to know some of the members here, I feel definitely undergunned, with three 9mils, 3 .22s, and one each .38 Special, 7.65 Mauser, and .32 ACP. That's out of dozens, maybe hundreds I've had over the decades. You certainly have an eclectic selection. Let us know how your acquisitions progress.
  7. Beskytte

    Beskytte Well-Known Member

    I regret to say that I have never even fired a pistol. I only know one man personally that owns a handgun and he's a cop... and the rest of my experience is limited to two rifles. A 30-30 and a 30-06. It's not that my family hates guns, my dad probably has more than 10 rifles and a few shotguns, he's just never had a reason to buy a hangun. Although we do have an old .44 that's rusted shut in every way...
  8. crebralfix

    crebralfix member

    Gotta agree with the other guys...three gun limit? You will see...call us in a year.


    Everyone has their opinion on guns. In general, I have found that deviating from certain handgun manufacturers results in...underperforming firearms.

    For example, I have just purchased a Kel Tec PF9. I compared it side by side with my Glock 19. Just comparing the plastic frames is very indicative of quality: Glocks are MUCH nicer. Even the metal on the Glock is done better. I can see the reasons why a new Glock costs around $560 new (with tax, in a gun store in my area) and the PF9 is under $300.

    That does NOT mean the PF9 will be a bad gun. I suspect that it will handle 50-100 rounds a year for the rest of my life. I'm sure across 2,500-5,000 rounds it will need some maintenance, but it should be relatively minor stuff. The Glock, on the other hand, has survived 10,000+ rounds in under three years...numerous courses...and killer attack bunnies.

    Of the guns listed, I'd definitely go with the CZ. They have an excellent reputation.

    Ask to take some of those guns apart and compare them side by side. What's the finish like? Do the parts look robust and precision machined? Do you see tool marks? What's made from plastic?

    If you think in terms of the gun as a safety device, then how much is it worth to you for that device to function well through not only a real situation, but also all your practice?


    BTW, your second gun should be identical to your first gun. That way, you have a backup in case your gun breaks. This happened to me with a P220 and I had no other gun. A $2 part that broke disabled the weapon. If you practice frequently, then you definitely need to have a maintenance manual, parts, tools, and an extra gun.


    If you intend to use your guns only for "range games", then you may wish to consider a handgun in 22 Long Rifle. 550 rounds of ammo costs under $15 at Walmart. You'll learn good skills, have fun, and not break the bank.

    Good luck! Let "The Search" begin!
  9. burningsquirrels

    burningsquirrels Well-Known Member

    all CZ magazines of the same caliber interchange.

    the only time it will not is when you try a compact magazine in a fullsize gun; obviously, the magazine for hte compact is shorter.

    the sp-01 is an excellent choice and is also head and shoulders above the rest in that list.
  10. schmeky

    schmeky Well-Known Member

    Did someone say the SP-01 is an excellent choice ??

    If you start with a CZ, and you like pistols, well, uh, limiting yourself to 3 won't be an option. 1911's, Glocks, CZ's, S&W, etc. all have a place in a collection.
  11. burningsquirrels

    burningsquirrels Well-Known Member

    almost forgot. schmeky made a good point.

    you really should add to that list:

    glock 17, 19
    S&W M&P 9mm
    springfield XD-9
    sig p226
    beretta 92

    all 9mm with solid reputations and used widely in competition. the sig is kinda pricey unless you buy certified pre owned (CPO), and the beretta is pretty big (to me), but the sp-01 is no lightweight either.

    thinking ahead to compatibility with your friend's CZ-75SA is thoughtful.
  12. jdc1244

    jdc1244 Well-Known Member

    It’s possible:

    3 CZs

    3 1911s

    etc, etc… ;):)
  13. Beskytte

    Beskytte Well-Known Member

    Okay, I should have been more clear on the intended purposes of my future guns. I intend to get two 9mm and a .45 mostly for sport shooting, plus a .22 (for bed-side?) and a 9mm (for ccw), already have a .22 pistol picked out.

    And thanks for the mag answer, I'll have to check on the sizes again, but it should work out, or that's what I heard earlier. And here's a picture of the .22, I'll have to find the name, kinda forgot it...

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  14. don95sml

    don95sml Well-Known Member

    Beskytte said:
    Before buying anything, the first advice you should heed is to do some shooting. Is there a place near you that rents handguns so that you could try various models? Is there a local club where you could take a basic handgun handling and safety course? Do you have a friend that could go with you to one of those places and double your enjoyment? Handgun shooting is a lot different from rifle or shotgun shooting, so you really should try to get some experience before making a buying decision.
  15. CountGlockula

    CountGlockula Well-Known Member

    Take a class and you'll be a step closer in your purchase.
  16. Beskytte

    Beskytte Well-Known Member

    Well, don95sml, I don't live near any place I can shoot. Except my friend's who lives in the country. And I live in a small town, I didn't even know you could "rent" firearms. Plus, as I said, my friend will be the first person to own a handgun that I know. Hopefully by Thursday, I'll know if I want a CZ. BTW, I did intend to take a class once I got a handgun. I had a shooter safety course when I was in the Boy Scouts, but that was a long time ago and it was mainly for shotguns.
  17. johnson_n

    johnson_n Well-Known Member

    What will you be using it for?
  18. burningsquirrels

    burningsquirrels Well-Known Member

    if it's for sporting, then any of the pistols i listed above are great. USPSA is dominated mostly by glocks, XD, CZs, M&P, SIGs, and berettas... in about that order.

    you'll want the longer barrel of the CZ SP-01 and the Glock 34 and the XD-9 tactical and the M&P Pro for sporting use.

    glocks have the most aftermarket parts behind the 1911, but it's a close race.

    the 1911-style for sporting use is very popular anytime you need a large caliber handgun. USPSA has its own division, 'single stack'. 1911 style frames can also be had in double stack for high capacity.

    before you do any pistol buying, go to the nearest gun shop, even if it's an hour away, and fondle all the pistols you can, and ask the gun shop folks for advice. you can rent a few to shoot at the range. it'll cost money to do so, but look at it this way:

    you can spend $75 trying a few handguns at the range and walk away with the pistol that works best... or,

    you can buy a pistol off the bat, and when it sucks for you, you loose $200 for the trade-in value, and you still haven't found what works for you.
  19. mgkdrgn

    mgkdrgn Well-Known Member

    "If I don't decide I'll become some collector and end up buying 30 of them and using all my money on them."

    And that would be a problem why? ;-)
  20. acmax95

    acmax95 Well-Known Member

    I own the Taurus 24/7 except mine is a .40. I have had it for two years now and never had an issue with it. I can't compare it to anything because I haven't shot any similar guns. It was my first handgun and I don't regret buying it.

    My friend recently bought the Taurus 92 and he loves that gun. I don't know of any issues that he has had with it.

    I also own an RIA 1911 Tactical that is a great gun for the money.

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