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lost his marbles then his gun

Discussion in 'Legal' started by gunsmith, Apr 16, 2004.

  1. gunsmith

    gunsmith member

    My boss had to confiscate the gun of one of my co workers last week.
    The guy came to work (armed security) and wen't out on a run,came back and announced "the voices" told him not to load his gun.
    (how ya like that! for once the little voices give some one good advice)
    The poor guy started getting real crazy ,mumbling,bizzare etc.
    Boss confiscates gun which now resides in the safe at work.
    He got sent home and the boss and the now crazyguy's partner go to his apt after work to check up on him and he is getting taken away by the cops and emt's and is so out of it that he can't recognize his partner of 2yrs.
    The guy was held for 48hrs and released and is on meds which make him slow and quiet,opposite of his real personality.
    He is a diabetic does anyone know if this could have something to do with it? (acting crazy?) also it was an involuntary commitment for 48hrs is he now prohibitted forever?
    What about his gun? I think we should sell it for him so he has some $
    but we are waitng to see what happens,anyway not many people at work want to go out on any runs with him now.
    He has been working his butt off for years and would get quite a bit on disabillity I am trying to make sure he gets his due.
    any helpfull comments??
  2. Stand_Watie

    Stand_Watie Well-Known Member

    I've seen diabetic reactions (low blood sugar) cause a person to act slow witted and drunk'ish and (high blood sugar) to act hyper. Never "voices are talking to me" crazy.

    That's just the observation of one particular person's reactions, for whatever it's worth.

    Thank God the voices told him to unload his gun and tell somebody about it rather than doing something really ugly.
  3. Carlos

    Carlos Well-Known Member

    Ya, let's not misconstrue truly what this guy said. Could have been his inner voice telling him something was wrong, not schizophrenic ranting.

    Diabetes can cause bizzarre behaviour. Give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

    Then, go with the good information.

    Let's not ruin a guy's life due to a disability.
  4. MikeB

    MikeB Well-Known Member

    Diabetes can cause really bizarre behaviour. I have a relative that has it. He once had a blood sugar problem while driving and almost hit a car, when the police pulled him over, they wouldn't give him medical attention because they "knew" he was drunk. He was in fact babbling incoherently.

    Long story short he ended up in the hospital, due to lack of more immediate medical attention. Like letting him use his insulin or sugar tablets, I don't recall the minute details and wasn't there.

    This all happened while his girlfriend was trying to tell the Police what was wrong with him and they wouldn't listen. She had just realized what was wrong with him and told him to pull over when he almost hit the car and the Police showed up.

    In all fairness he certainly looked and sounded drunk, I don't blame the Police for initially thinking that. I do have problems with them not allowing him medical attention for over an hour, because they just "knew" he was drunk.

    Now this did happen shortly after he was first diagnosed, and he hadn't had enough experience with knowing his own condition. He very rarely has any problems like this anymore. This could be the case with the guy in your story.

    Or maybe he is just crazy. However if he does infact have Diabetes he should be given the benefit of the doubt.
  5. dinosaur

    dinosaur Well-Known Member

    Not really germaine to the story but,

    I can keep this thread gun related.:)

    There was a Danish (I think) movie made back in the 60's or early 70's titled The Laughing Policeman. Not the one with Bruce Dern, Lou Gossett & Walter Matthau. This one was subtitled.

    Anyway, someone murders a high ranking police official. Blah, blah, blah but it turns out it's another cop. Seems his wife was arrested on a park bench for being drunk. She was actually a diabetic and I think she dies in custody.

    The movie has a Texas Tower type ending. He holes up on a roof top with a get this, a Johnson SMG WWII.:eek: First time I ever saw one.:cool: This is in midtown in rush hour and he manages to shoot down a police helicopter. Very scary scenario.

    I haven't seen it in years and I don't know if it's out in DVD.
  6. gunsmith

    gunsmith member


    The guy has worked hard for years with no problems.
    I hope he can return to work,I will pass along the info on Diabetics
  7. dustind

    dustind Well-Known Member

    I worked with a diabetic guy that one day started talking to me in the third person as if he was our boss talking to him(the worker). He began to mumble to himself and was unable to work. He then started to loose motor function (could not walk). I went for help not knowing what was wrong, and when I got back he was on the floor. Someone knew what to do, and he was fine afterwards.

    It was a lot like gunsmith's story, in my pretty uninformed opinion your friend sounds like he was in need of some sugar.

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