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M1A project done, traditionalists cover your eyes

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by trbon8r, Jul 18, 2007.

  1. trbon8r

    trbon8r Well-Known Member

    Here are a few pics of my M1A project with VLTOR modstock.

    This rifle is a Springfield receiver with all USGI parts with the exception of the barrel which is a Criterion GI profile. Mods are a trigger job, and unitized gas system. The scope is a Leupold 1.5-5 MR/T with lit SPR reticle. The scope mount is an ARMS that was modified by WARBIRD into an older style split rail ARMS, which I prefer over the current ARMS mount.

    The VLTOR stock with pistol grip makes the rifle a little more handy, and also helps solve the cheek weld issue with optics with the built in adjustable up and down travel of the stock. The stock also helps to lighten up the rifle a bit. :)

    This is my Walter Mitty rifle I plan to take through a fighting rifle course at some point. I've had the rifle out to the range twice. The first time out I had no problem scoring hits on bowling pins set up at 300 yards from the prone position with an ammo can for support and Portugese surplus ammo. Even when I missed it wasn't by much. I benched the rifle at 100 yards. Groups currently hover just over an inch at 100 yards with the same Portugese surp ammo.

    All things considered I'm happy! By way, M14 traditionalists don't hate me too bad, I've got a couple other M14s that wear pretty wood as well. :)

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  2. fletcher

    fletcher Well-Known Member

    Can't say I care for that color scheme, but overall it looks great.

    Excellent work.
  3. trbon8r

    trbon8r Well-Known Member

    The handguard wasn't painted because the VLTOR stock doesn't come with a handguard painted to match. Actually the stock is designed to be used with the cluster rail as used on the SOCOM II http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?model=18, which I didn't want.

    Rather than all those rails I wouldn't use, I figure I could always install a section of rail on the front of the stock for mounting a weapon light if I find having a light is a must for the fighting rifle class I plan to take. I debated on painting the handguard to match, and may still. I guess the desert tan is either a love it or hate it thing.

    Thanks for the compliment. :)
  4. TIMC

    TIMC Well-Known Member

    Came out very well. Nice looking rifle!
  5. Chipperman

    Chipperman Well-Known Member

    I was very tentative about clicking on this thread, but it actually looks pretty nice.

    Good job. Just don't do it to a Garand. ;)
  6. Cosmoline

    Cosmoline Well-Known Member

    Submit it to the DOD in response to their next requests for proposals. Tell them it's the new G-RAND individual weapons system.
  7. trbon8r

    trbon8r Well-Known Member

    Does this mean I would need the HK marketing department to go to work on the project? :p
  8. BsChoy

    BsChoy Well-Known Member

    Very nice!!!
  9. Neo-Luddite

    Neo-Luddite Well-Known Member

  10. Harry Paget Flashman

    Harry Paget Flashman Well-Known Member

    Mine didn't turn out as nice as yours. But then I was using an SKS and a Tapco T6 stock. Nice work.
  11. Bartholomew Roberts

    Bartholomew Roberts Moderator Emeritus

    What is the total weight on that?
  12. Davo

    Davo Well-Known Member

    Unusual look, but looks like quality stuff went into it.
    Hows the cheek weld on that?
  13. bartsimpson123844

    bartsimpson123844 Well-Known Member

    It looks excellent, although I believe it would look better in O.D. :)
  14. trbon8r

    trbon8r Well-Known Member

    The cheek weld is great since the stock is adjustable, and can work equally well with irons or optics. I could raise the butt stock up more if needed.

    Bartholomew, I would love to know the weight of the whole package. I need to get it on a scale and find out. Part of my plan was to make this rifle as light as possible. The VLTOR stock shaves some weight, and the ARMS scope mount is just about the lightest of the scope mounts available for the M1A. I may in the future consider changing to an 18.5" barrel to make the rifle handier and shave a few more ounces.

    You won't mistake this rifle for an M4 carbine, but it's no pig either.
  15. MassMark

    MassMark Well-Known Member

    SWEET! Very sweet indeed. I too, part with the color, (I'm an OD/Black Fan), but Jesus, that set-up is really nice! Can;t wait to get my MCS up to spec like that and I hear what you're saying about cheek-weld. It's no longer an issue for me at all either. Excellent looking rifle! :)
  16. trbon8r

    trbon8r Well-Known Member

    Ok ok, the color wasn't really my first choice either. :) I would have preferred the black or the OD version.

    After much searching I found this stock for a good deal brand new in the box, so I bought it, although desert tan doesn't do me much good in Maryland. :neener:

    Right now I'm more into just testing the whole package to find out how it works for me, and I can worry about "pretty" later on if at all. So far I think the whole package works great and will be a keeper!

    I may eventually send the stock off for a camo job. Any recommendations on where I should send it for a top notch job? I was told VLTOR uses KG Gunkote and I'm not sure the old stuff would even come off.
  17. MassMark

    MassMark Well-Known Member

    I have a better idea...If SHTF, hide in the local sand pit... :neener:

    I'm not really sure where to send you on that one - any thoughts on doing it yourself? I have seen some pretty impressive work come out of people's garages....Just a thought.
  18. precisionshootist

    precisionshootist Well-Known Member


    Looks great!

    Just curious, how much more do you think it cost you to build this rifle with all GI parts? Also why did you go with an after market barrel over a chrome lined GI? Was the barrel choice for accuracy or just lack of availability of USGI?
  19. M110

    M110 Well-Known Member

    Was there a sale on at TAPCO :neener:
  20. trbon8r

    trbon8r Well-Known Member


    The cost for me to use USGI parts was minimal because I bought a bunch of GI parts back when CMP was selling them pretty cheap. Back then op rods, bolts, trigger groups were in the $40 range. On this rifle I replaced the commercial SA Inc. trigger group, op rod, and rear sight assembly with GI stuff. Since I had my stash of CMP parts, when I resold the commercial parts that I took off I didn't lose any money. In my opinion, some of the SA Inc. commercial parts are ok, and some are crap. It just depends.

    If you were to build a rifle from scratch with just a receiver, and USGI parts kit the cost would be considerable. USGI parts kits are running in the neighborhood of $1000 these days. If you can, rather than building a rifle, I always recommend looking for an older M1A that will be made up of GI parts. It's cheaper than building a rifle from scratch. I didn't have that luxury when I bought this rifle. I bought it when I lived in California right before the "assault weapon" ban. During those uncertain times people were scooping up anything and everything, and I was just happy to get any M1A.

    This rifle started out as a complete Springfield Inc. rifle with Stainless barrel. I didn't like the stainless barrel so I had it removed and sold it off. It was then replaced with the Criterion barrel. On my gunsmith's recommendation I went with a standard Criterion barrel instead of the chrome lined barrel because with commercial M14 type receivers there can be some variance from one receiver to the next. With a non-chrome bore this allows the smith to install a short chambered barrel, and then ream for proper headspace. We tried a Criterion chrome lined barrel, but it would not headspace. I guess if my smith had enough chrome lined barrels to choose from he might have found one that would have eventually headspaced.

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