Major U.S. attack may have killed Zawahri

[longhorngunman]

When will the WOT end? At best, in the next two generations, more likely it will still be going on long after us adults are dead. President Bush also said as much after 9/11. This is going to be a long deadly process that hasn't even hit full steam yet. I remember the President also saying to the American people that there would be dark days ahead and to keep our resolve, which was fine right after 9/11, but now people have gone complacent and unwilling to do what it takes, which is personified by some on this board.

 

[Biker]

"What it takes" is pretty much subjective, ain't it? Evidentally, you're willing to give up much for the illusion of safety.
I really should take up selling Melasnakeoil if this is the prevalant attitude today in America.
Hmmmm....64% approve of Bush by-passing Fisa, the Patriot Act is fine with most...

Biker

 

[SIGarmed]

Where did you read that it was only women and children? When you try to spin the discussion in a different direction by inserting a word like this, you might distract the more simple-minded reader, but you don't detract from the fact that women and children were killed. Regardless of how you try to spin that fact, it remains a problem.

I think my point was well made. Whether there were any men killed or not. That's a moot point. It seems the islamofascists have made a policy of making non-combatants good sheilds that will die eveytime we make a move.

That's been the policy of the dirtbags for a very long time. The whiners over here eat it up, and that's why they do it. When you harbor terrorists you will pay the price. This game is for keeps.

 

[Lone_Gunman]

I remember the President also saying to the American people that there would be dark days ahead and to keep our resolve, which was fine right after 9/11, but now people have gone complacent and unwilling to do what it takes, which is personified by some on this board.

I think in the years to come, the war will be fought in different ways. More like a cold war than what we have seen with Bush. We absolutely need better intelligence. We need to move away from attacking groups of "possible" terrorists with the military, based on poor intelligence. This causes too much collateral damage, breeds hate against Americans, and recruits people to the side of the islamofascists. We must switch to infiltration, surveillance, and ultimate very specific engagement of the enemy. The WOT needs to become more of an intelligence/law enforcement operation, and less of blowing up everything in a general area, and hoping someone bad was there.

Living in a constant state of "war" for the next several generations will certainly destroy our republic. Politicians talk of things like the Patriot Act being only temporary while we fight the war, but if we are talking generations, then how temporary is that.

I think the course Bush has put us on of perpetual warfare will be the unravelling of our country. Our government wants us to be afraid.

 

[Ryder]

Great timing on the 18 killed. This will give them a reason to ignore the 362 muslums killed (some disfigured beyond recognition) and over 1000 muslums injured that died in a stampede that same day. Were they running from our bombs? No, it was a religious gathering. Good thing they value human life so highly otherwise someone might say they were showing hypocracy over these 18 deaths by raising such a fuss.

We can create no new enemies given the fact and that we had no freinds in the area this bombing happened in the first place. Why do you suppose the terrorists live there?

What they protest is the fact we are there at all. Leave it to our media to hype the theory that they care how many innocent people die.

 

[Lone_Gunman]

We can create no new enemies given the fact and that we had no freinds in the area this bombing happened in the first place.

I agree, but that doesn't make it right to kill innocent people.

 

[longhorngunman]

Lone Gunman, you and John Kerry seem to have the same philosophy when it comes to defeating those that would like to kill us all. Thankfully, Kerry lost.

 

[SIGarmed]

Lone Gunman, you and John Kerry seem to have the same philosophy when it comes to defeating those that would like to kill us all. Thankfully, Kerry lost.

And don't forget Clinton pre-9-11.

 

[Lone_Gunman]

So how are we safer now that we have killed these villagers? How is al qaeda harmed by this action? This is a screw up, plain and simple, and we will continue to screw up like this as long as we go about in the half assed way we have been going. I realize good intelligence is very difficult to come by, but bad intelligence gets bystanders killed and makes us look bad.

I guess we don't have to worry about the children growing up into terrorists. I guess you are thinking more long term than I am. Nits grow into lice, eh?

 

[Waitone]

We are paying for 30+ years of playing like Little Lord Fontleroy in a knife fight. Human intel demands we do dirt, get dirty, and play with dirty people. If you don't we will get a steady stream of what just happened.

 

[Art Eatman]

This thread seems to have grown lice...

, Art