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Man shoots co-worker while rescuing him from crocodile

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 35Rem, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. 35Rem

    35Rem Well-Known Member


    Is it just me, or is it funny that these guys work in a city called "Darwin"?
  2. takhtakaal

    takhtakaal Well-Known Member

    I'd just like to know what sort of caliber is enough for crocodiles but not man?
  3. Chipperman

    Chipperman Well-Known Member

    I wonder if the Croc is going to survive.
  4. romma

    romma Well-Known Member

    Darwin! You can't make this stuff up!
  5. ozwyn

    ozwyn Well-Known Member

    Somehow I doubt the coworker is unhappy about it.

    I mean, if the shot saved his life, and after going through the crock went through his arm, that's a more than fair trade.
  6. silverlance

    silverlance Well-Known Member

    I'm laughing, but I really shouldn't. Okay, I stopped.
    The shot wasn't a go-through. His first shot was good, but the SECOND one hit the poor guy's other arm. so now he has one arm bitten, and the other arm shot.

    I hope this guy gets well. On a pro RKBA note, this guy would most DEFINITELY be croc lunch if his buddy hadn't been carrying a gun. I've seen videos and heard stories... those things are monsters.
  7. Wheeler44

    Wheeler44 Well-Known Member

    Nope, same arm, and that's gonna leave a mark.
  8. Claude Clay

    Claude Clay Well-Known Member

    Grant, now known as Lefty.............
  9. Eightball

    Eightball Well-Known Member

    Let's see.....if that happened to me--y'know, coworker shoots whatever's trying to kill me, hits it, and the next shot is a non-life threatening hit to myself? I'd be thankful that I was wounded instead of dead.

    Could just be me, though.
  10. Superlite27

    Superlite27 Well-Known Member


    I don't know. I'd be happy with the first shot that obviously worked. If I was Grant, I'd seriously question my buddie's second shot.

    Do me a favor. If I ever get grabbed by a crocodile, DON'T START WITH A HEADSHOT! Go for a few to the heart. If he doesn't let go after that, then try the head.

    I wonder if there was any alcohol involved?
  11. Lonestar49

    Lonestar49 Well-Known Member

    2 for 2 ='s a Darwin Day



    1. collecting a mothers eggs.. (not a wise choice)

    2. taking a second (close range shot) and hitting his buddy..

    Lesson: the 2 of them (together) make for trouble..

  12. ASM826

    ASM826 Well-Known Member

    At least it was his arm

    If the croc had rolled a different way, it could have been his head. Of course, at that point, he could have gone back to collecting eggs, the crocodile would have been occupied.

    "I don't have to outrun the bear, just outrun you.":p
  13. romma

    romma Well-Known Member

    Q: how do you put your hand in a crocidiles mouth?

    A: Very carefully!
  14. ArmedBear

    ArmedBear Well-Known Member

    I think you have to understand a couple of things.

    1. Australian law limits handguns to a maximum caliber of 9mm. The most powerful gun they would have had would be a .357 Magnum, and the shooter would probably have to make a head shot to stop the attack.

    2. A mature saltwater croc is HUGE, STRONG and thrashes around a LOT. It's a moving target, with the victim in its jaws, right near where you have to hit the animal.

    3. If the guy hadn't shot the croc, his buddy would probably be dead. The risk the shooter took was that he'd hit his buddy, but the consequence of his failing to fire was death for the victim.
  15. Zoogster

    Zoogster Well-Known Member

    I have thought of these types of shots many times. Usualy in reference to dangerous dogs.

    If someone was being mauled and attacked by a dog I would not aim for the head. I would proceed to unload multiple rounds into its mid section along a trajectory that posed little danger to the person being attacked. As the spine and organs were destroyed its attack would cease.

    I imagine the same is true for a croc, although it really depends on the round used and the capacity of the firearm. If one has only a handful of shots against such a powerful animal it might not be a good tradoff. If however you have the capacity of many autos you could easily expend at least half of them firing into the body before re evaluating the situation and firing into the head and neck area.

    The ideal trajectory would be to run up and be close to over the animal and start trying to severe its spine. Otherwise go for organs.

    If however the animal is a well armored croc and you only got a round that has minimal penetration you might be better off posing a little more risk to the person being attacked and going for the brain and neck (or exposed underside.)

    Don't hurt someone even worse "rescuing" them.

    Which is why posing a greater risk to the person being rescued by going for the head is appropriate. They usualy do not have semi autos, and revolvers have only a limited number of shots. Since the revolver won't be a serious magnum powered firearm appropriate for such an animal, body shots are not likely to be reliably effective.
    Low capacity and low power (for the animal) means more risky shots need to be taken to make them count.
  16. ArmedBear

    ArmedBear Well-Known Member

    Zoogster, do you have any idea how big, strong and fast those things are?

    They have tiny brains, with minimal cognition beyond attack, kill, eat. And they're reptiles, cold-blooded animals. They use fast-twitch muscles. Blood loss and lung damage won't stop them at all, in the short term.

    Here's one eating a bull shark it caught:
  17. Zoogster

    Zoogster Well-Known Member

    Well if someone was being attacked by that thing I would fire into the neck area as well as I could.
    Far enough back from the limb or body part in its mouth, yet still as high up as possible.
    If however the best I had was 5 shots from a .357 or less like in Australia the risk of hitting his arm and going for the ping pong size brain on a moving thrashing target might be warranted.

    However if I worked that job in a more firearm friendly place I would have a high powered magnum revolver in something above .44 magnum or an auto like a 10mm with 16 rounds in it.

    I would feel fine emptying half of those rounds into the neck before putting the individual at greater risk going for the brain.
  18. HK G3

    HK G3 Well-Known Member

    This would all have been solved much better if they carried Japanese samurai swords.
  19. Zoogster

    Zoogster Well-Known Member

    Part of carrying is what is convenient.
    They were walking along a muddy river bank collecting eggs likely using both hands.
    They will go months or years without using what they carry for protection.
    That akward sword in scabbard banging around, long, and restricting thier movement when they are kneeling down and performing various tasks means they would take it off and not have it readily available when they finaly do need it.

    That means such a sword would provide little to no protection.

    A firearm is in a much more convenient package which means it is far more likely to be carried doing mundane tasks in the long periods of time in between uses.
  20. PercyShelley

    PercyShelley Well-Known Member

    That's what I've heard too; their metabolism is slow enough that hitting their circulatory system won't stop their brains fast enough to keep them from eating you. Which leads me to a single conclusion about this scenario:

    1) Don't mess with crocodiles.

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