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Man Shoots Two Mormons Going Door To Door

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by rick_reno, Jan 4, 2006.

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  1. rick_reno

    rick_reno member


    CHESAPEAKE, Va. -- A Mormon missionary going door to door was fatally shot Monday night and a fellow missionary was wounded by an assailant who fled, police said.

    The attacks happened just after 6 p.m. in the Deep Creek area of the city, police said, when a man approached the two, shot them and ran away.

    One of the victims ran to a nearby nursing home seeking help, police said.

    The missionaries were identified by church spokesmen Dale Bills and Michael Purdy as Elders Morgan Young, 21, of Bountiful, Utah, and Joshua Heidbrink of Greeley, Colo. Chesapeake police said he is 19.

    They were taken to Sentara Norfolk General Hospital, where Young later died, spokeswoman Cheri Hinshelwood said. Heidbrink was upgraded to good condition Tuesday morning, she said.

    Police described the gunman as a black male about 5 feet 10 inches . They said he was wearing a black hooded sweatshirt and denim jeans.

    Police shut down part of the neighborhood while searching for the man.

    "This is close to home," said Bobby Gatling, who said he has lived on the block for two years. "Nothing like this has ever happened here before."

    There was no immediate word on what prompted the shootings.
  2. Biker

    Biker Well-Known Member

    In my neck of the woods, Morman missionaries are a common sight. I mean ya can't swing a dead cat without hittin' ten of 'em.
    Nice enough folks, but I fully expect to see a 'gang fight' in my driveway between the Mormans and the Jehova's Witnesses some day.
  3. KaceCoyote

    KaceCoyote Well-Known Member

    Was bound to happen when folks got bored with answering the door nude and armed.
  4. Lupinus

    Lupinus Well-Known Member

    I just had JW's yesterday.

    Fun to answer the door twitch a little act generaly off you meds and invite them in for milk and cookies with your playmates...who happen to be invisible due to loaned Klingon cloaking tech.
  5. armoredman

    armoredman Well-Known Member

    I had a friend who would always slide a porno movie in the VCR when missionaries of any kind came in, and watch it while ignoring them.
    Regardless, this scumbag needs to be caught and hung, I mean, prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
  6. ingram

    ingram Well-Known Member

    I didn't realize shooting was an option when mormons come knocking on my door. :D

  7. exoduster18

    exoduster18 Well-Known Member

    I've heard of people being angered when people of various faiths come knocking on their door. But to actually shoot someone? WOW.

    Just do as Jeff Foxworthy does. Put out some crime scene tape, have someone lay down on your porch and draw their outline with some chalk and then throw some religous pamphlets down around the area. That would take care of them without you having to shoot someone.
  8. V4Vendetta

    V4Vendetta member

    "I fully expect to see a 'gang fight' in my driveway between the Mormans and the Jehova's Witnesses some day."

    I doubt it will happen. I don't know too much about the Mormans but the JW's are not the vioent sort. They don't get involved in wars. They remain neutral always. I understand some might not like they go door to door preaching, but shooting at them is just wrong. Just say that your not interested.
  9. sm

    sm member

    I am sorry to hear of this, my best sent to surviving victim and to familes of both- and the Church.

    I'm not Mormon. I am a Responsible Firearm Owner, one who happens to be a member of THR/ TFL and other sister sites.

    Society has/ continues to change. Makes no nevermind whom is going door to door, Girlscouts selling cookies, Boy Scouts doing neighborhood projects, Church folks inviting folks...

    We do not discuss Religion on THR/TFL. We do - or should - discuss with our locales , with Scouts and Churches how society is not always safe, various ploys used by BGs to gain access, confidence of elderly to harm them.

    Being Responsible we educate folks , suggest why going door to door and why some are concerned. Perhaps offer constructive ideas. Even if we do not agree with, or particpate in that organization.

    How would YOU feel if a family member, a relative were simply trying to do something they believed and were harmed. Maybe all they wanted were to invite folks of the neighborhood to a meeting to make neighborhood more secure...a simple neighborhood watch meeting...

    I shared with a Mormon classmate, a lady, how folks are leary, and she shared with her Church (elders?). She had moved from a smaller town and everyone knew everyone and neighborhoods were different- more receptive.

    I mean different faiths pitched in when a tornado came thru...human beings being human and doing for each other. I do not feel this a Belief Specific thing...no matter if one has a specific belief, none, or lukewarm.

    This medium, THR/ TFL can be used to show those not members, instead link to us via search engines, that WE Responsible Firearm Owners are civil, concerned, and lead by example.

    Or at least that is the perception I want to send.

    Pretty sure that is the one some of our Staff - Mormons want to project.
    Pretty sure that is the one some of our Staff - Catholic want to project.
    Pretty sure that is the one the Person whom keeps this site up and running wants to project and his Beliefs are constantly bashed on this site.


  10. trickyasafox

    trickyasafox Well-Known Member

    thats terrible. one of those kids died and they were my age. there are like 3 or 4 mormon kids at my college, not to stereotype, but they are the nicest people. hope the other one turns out okay
  11. BHPshooter

    BHPshooter Well-Known Member

    This is all over the news in Utah.

    So far, they are pretty sure that the missionaries witnessed a crime in progress, which would definitely explain why they were shot.

    Basically, anything like this is a very sad affair. Pretty tragic.

  12. BozemanMT

    BozemanMT Well-Known Member

    Thsi is just horrible and I feel for those families.

    Agree or disagree with their religion/philosophy, they are really nice people. (BTW, there are female Mormon missionaries too) who believe in their stuff and willing to give of their time and money for what they believe in. You gotta respect that.

    Why be mean when they come to your door?, just say you aren't interested and have a nice day and move on?
  13. Sleeping Dog

    Sleeping Dog Well-Known Member

    From reading the story, it appears they weren't shot by someone answering a door, but by someone approaching from elsewhere. The Mormon missionaries were probably not armed.

  14. BozemanMT

    BozemanMT Well-Known Member

    Yes, I know that Mormon missionaries aren't armed:uhoh:
    My point was to other posters who talked about putting on porn, or slamming doors or whatever instead of just saying "not interested" and being mean to these young men of whatever religion.
  15. antsi

    antsi Well-Known Member

    They swear off all kinds of things when they are on a mission, including firearms. They don't watch TV, or listen to secular music, or any one of hundreds of other things. They make great sacrifices for what they believe in.
  16. KaceCoyote

    KaceCoyote Well-Known Member

    Yaknow...Missouri Law specifically states its legal to kill Mormons..
  17. Model520Fan

    Model520Fan Well-Known Member

    Hey, that's easy for you to say. You're from a part of the country where folks actually have some respect for other folks' religious beliefs . [At least I think they still do - they certainly did when I lived in W-S as a child.]

  18. usp_fan

    usp_fan Well-Known Member


    The extermination order was repealed and an applogy given--about a century too late.

    I was a Missionary in TX. Had a couple of buddies that were doing the same thing get shot at one night. Luckily, the shooter missed and these guys ducked away on their bikes. I feel for these families. Prayers sent.

  19. Jubei

    Jubei Well-Known Member

    One of my old runnin' buddies family are Jehovahs Witnesses, they were some of the nicest people. The JWs and Mormons could be a little bothersome when they came by and you are busy, but I found them to be a source of entertainment when I was bored. I used to get into religious discussions/debates with them for what seemed like hours on end. It used to drive my roommate nuts.

    Never got the urge to shoot one though.

    I hope they get the SOB that shot them.

  20. tube_ee

    tube_ee Well-Known Member

    I don't know about that... Most of the missionaries I knew (a good friends dad was some sort of high-muckety-muck in the LDS church, and always hosted misssionaries) spent their weekdays passing out literature, Sundays in church, and Fridays and Saturdays getting drunk and smoking pot with us heathens.

    They freely admitted they were doing it for the money. About 25 grand each, IIRC, and a couple of them got brand new cars thrown in. Whether this is the exception or the rule, I don't know, but I've seen it a lot.

    As for rudeness, well, I put them in the same moral category as telemarketers, and they get the same treatment. The fact that the product is religion makes no difference to me. It's a sales job, and one I didn't ask to be subjected to.

    None of which means that I don't feel for these kids and their families. I wonder what the real story is here. Somehow I doubt it was


    "Hello, we'd like to talk to you about Jesu..."

    BLAM!! BLAM!!


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