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Marlin for defense?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Mendel5, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. Mendel5

    Mendel5 Well-Known Member

    Looking to purchase a Marlin 336W in 30-30 ... would this round be effective for home defense? I know it'd be good for hunting, but I want to stick to one firearm, if possible.
  2. ArmedBear

    ArmedBear Well-Known Member

    Can you use that to hunt in Indiana? I thought you had to hunt with slugs there.

    .30-30 will take care of any human predator, same as animals. I wouldn't use it in a condo, or wherever a rifle bullet could go through walls and hurt someone, like your own kids. But it'll certainly take down someone who wants to kill you, if it comes to that.
  3. Cosmoline

    Cosmoline Well-Known Member

    Numerous threads have gone over and over this. Personally I wouldn't hesitate to use 130-150 grain HP's from a .30-30 for self defense. Indeed I'd take a .30-30 any day of the week over any handgun. It's an exceptionally effective cartridge against all medium soft-skin game. Any firearm bullet will penetrate modern interior walls, so you're better off with a firearm that gets the job done with less chance of a miss and less need for followup shots.
  4. Mendel5

    Mendel5 Well-Known Member

    Right about the slugs in Indiana .... I'm thinking about possibly out of state.
  5. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    Unless predation permit, but I recommend 6.5 Swede for that.:D

    Remember Rule #4, with a centerfire rifle overpentration into my neighbor would be a grave concern for an urban subdivision dweller like me.:uhoh:
  6. TomFromTheShade

    TomFromTheShade Active Member

    The 30-30 is a fine choice for almost all big game hunting out to about 200 yards. Some people will tell you that it is marginal on elk and moose, but plenty of them have fallen to the 30-30 over the years. As for humans, think of it like the 7.62x39. They are about equal in my book and that AK round is a fine fine bad guy killer.
  7. MechAg94

    MechAg94 Well-Known Member

    A levergun is also more effective than a pistol after you run out of ammo.
  8. HorseSoldier

    HorseSoldier Well-Known Member

    30-30 should get the job done in a defensive shooting scenario . . . but a 45-70 Guide Gun would really get the job done . . . :)
  9. Magnum Wheel Man

    Magnum Wheel Man Well-Known Member

    have you considered the 410 lever gun... I think it would be an awesome home defense gun, but 410 slugs only marginal on deer, but at least legal in your area...
  10. Father Knows Best

    Father Knows Best Well-Known Member

    great choice!

    In my not-so-humble opinion, the best choice for a home defense firearm is a Marlin or Winchester "thutty-thutty" lever action rifle. They are compact, lightweight, quick-handling, reliable, more powerful and easier to hit with than a handgun, and can be used effectively in hand-to-hand combat, if necessary. Compared to black rifles and many modern handguns, they're also a whole lot more "friendly" to the media and politicians (prosecutors) in the event you have to pull the trigger, and that may help keep you from winding up on the wrong end of an indictment, or save your @ss when you have to face a jury. The scared homeowner forced to use his trusty old deer rifle to protect the homestead just plays better to typical American media and legal audiences than does the prepared, well-trained suburban commando with his military-style, scary looking weapons.

    The Marlin 336 also happens to be my first choice of 30-30's. It is extremely well built. There are some great new ammo choices out there, too, like the new LeveRevolution ballistic tip ammo.
  11. Fosbery

    Fosbery Well-Known Member

    I use a Marlin for defence, but mine is in .357 magnum. I get 10 shots instead of 6 and I can practice with .38 special. I must admit I've never shot .30-30, never even seen it this side of the Atlantic. Is it comparable to any other common cartridges?
  12. Father Knows Best

    Father Knows Best Well-Known Member

    I actually prefer the pistol caliber lever guns for home defense, also. The Marlin 1894 in 44 magnum is my favorite.

    the .30-30 was introduced in 1894 as the .30 Winchester Central Fire (.30 WCF). It became commonly known as the .30-30 because it was .30 caliber and original loadings back up the bullet with about 30 grains of powder. It was the first commercially successful smokeless powder cartridge. It was launched along with the Winchester model 1894 lever action rifle, which it was designed for. It is generally classified as an "intermediate" cartridge and is roughly equivalent ballistically to the 7.62x39 ("Russian") cartridge. It is much higher velocity that handgun rounds but still slower than full power rifle rounds like the .30-06, .308 (7.62x51 NATO), etc. Until recently, however, 30-30 ammo always used ballistically inefficient round or flat-nose bullets, because the 30-30 is used in tubular magazines where a pointed bullet can set off the primers of other cartridges under recoil. Hornady has recently introduced a line of ammo for lever guns that uses soft plastic tips to give ballistically efficient spitzer-type shapes and is still safe for tubular magazines.

    The .30-30 is the classic American deer rifle. There was a time when a .30-30 lever action was found in almost every American home. They are still quite common, and .30-30 ammo remains one of the best sellers in the U.S.
  13. Cosmoline

    Cosmoline Well-Known Member

    One major plus of the .30-30, and the edge it has over the 7.62x39 for home defense, is the common availability of tried and tested HP and SP rounds in the 125-150 grain range. The .30-30 has been putting expanding rounds through soft skinned game for over 110 years now. The x39, in contrast, is a military round with a history of relying on FMJ rounds. There are some expanding rounds out there for it, but they have nowhere near the track record of the .30-30's expanding rounds.

    I would not advise the 160 grain leverevolution rounds for home defense. They do shoot flatter at 100+ yards, but this isn't a factor here. I'd go with a lighter weight HP
  14. Mendel5

    Mendel5 Well-Known Member

    Except in Indiana you can't hunt deer with anything but a slug gun ... so much for using it for deer.
  15. VeT|Us

    VeT|Us Well-Known Member

    You really dare to use your Marlin for defence in the UK?
    I think I'd prefer a katana og a blunt instrument when facing those restrictions present in the UK.. Eitherway, I commend you for beeing a sheepdog in a nation of sheeple.
  16. goon

    goon Well-Known Member

    Fosbery - the 30-30 is about like a rimmed 7.62x39 only a little more powerful. It throws a .30 caliber 150 grain bullet at about 2400 fps. Ballistics suffer a little at long range because for the most part you have to use flat or round nosed bullets because most of the rifles that fire it use tubular magazines. Hornady has started making pointed nose bullets with soft polymer tips that help take care of this but most of the ammo I still see for it is round nosed.
    It is a very popular round in the US.
  17. Fosbery

    Fosbery Well-Known Member

    Right, cheers for the info :) Over here we generally use .240, .270 and .308 for deer.

    Of course, I have never actually used my Marlin in anger, but I am confident I would do so if it were nescessary. Assuming I was actually acting in self-defence (me or him, or near enough), I doubt I'd have legal trouble.
  18. AStone

    AStone Well-Known Member

    Bumping a quiet Marlin .30/30 thread

    I've been looking at Marlins for a while now. Will probably buy a 336W soon.
    Seems the right one for me (given stock & barrel modification plans).

    Also looking into 1895G for a useful gun for the Alaska move...
  19. aspen1964

    aspen1964 Well-Known Member

    any good lever action hunting carbine makes a good defense gun as well...one good minor point even though it may not arise is the ability to recharge the magazine while the gun has one round chambered and cocked ready to fire...
  20. AStone

    AStone Well-Known Member

    Perhaps a minor point, but a relevant one, Aspen.

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