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MBC Quality

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by blarby, Mar 31, 2011.

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  1. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    So, I got my 500 165gr whitetails from MBC today !

    Ended up with 504, bonus :D

    Expertly sized to .311- they all passed...exactly.

    Weight breakdown :

    168 gr : 99

    167 gr : 47

    166 gr : 187

    165 gr : 167

    164 gr : 3

    163 gr : 1

    I didn't split hairs on tenth grains, and just lumped em into a whole grain weight category. If we exclude the 4 bonus bullets from the group- we'd end up with only four weight categories.

    Lubing on the bullets was of great quality and uniformly applied....what the USPS knocked askew, I was able to roll back into the grooves easily- the lube was in the box, so i do blame USPS/ normal transit. I've seen a lot of thin/thick lube jobs from competitors at friends benches....these don't suffer that malady.

    The bullet lengths are extremely uniform divided amongst the weight gradients: 0.934 inches for the heaviest, down to 0.925 for the lightest. There were very few exceptions to the weight/length correlation within the measured 1 grain intervals.

    Concentric measurement was also VERY good, I'm sure no doubt due to the sizing process, but the measurement along the bullet ogive was very regular and consistent.

    Very good casting technique evident solely based on uniformity of finished shape, and weight spread deviation.

    Very high marks from me, you folks do an excellent job over there.

    As soon as I can, I look forward to ordering more in all the calibers I shoot.

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  2. ljnowell

    ljnowell Well-Known Member

    You have discovered the magic that is MoBullet. They somehow manage to provide that quality without giving you year long delays like other bullet casters who wont be named. They also come through with thier promises. You wont see long threads about people not getting what they paid for like with others.

    You are now hooked, like many of us.
  3. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    Indeed I have.
  4. gacajun

    gacajun Well-Known Member

    +1 on MBC quality. I've ordered from them 3 times in the last 2 months and they have been prompt and the bullets weighed uniformly. They even let us know that a price increase was coming so we could order before price increases.
  5. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    And, they have allowed me to produce these first 50 beauties.

    First lead from MBC, looks good to me !

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  6. capreppy

    capreppy Well-Known Member

    Every order has shipped within 24 hours of order (even those placed late at night on a Friday). The quality of the bullets is great. I won't go anywhere else.
  7. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    I was also very happy at how well those 165gr 30-30 bullets shot. They are extremely accurate.

    What powder and charge weight did you settle on? My first batch was with 21.0gr H4895. The velocity from a Marlin Carbine was 1340 which is a little low.
  8. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    I pressed 50 of the 7.2 gr uniques.

    Gonna try those out @ the range this weekend, see how they do.

    Hopefully I'll have a little more brass after that trip :D for experimenting, as that was the last 50 I had !

    I'm going to start at 22 or 23 grains h4895, and see what shakes loose on the next batch. I know in regards to pressure I'm good clear up to the low 30 mark, its just going to be an accuracy and leading issue at that point.

    If the 7.2 gr load Jech cooked up works as well in my rifle as It did in his, I may just leave well enough alone..... they only cost me about 14 cents a piece that way :)

    One thing I was impressed with : (weird, but bear with me) I tumble after assembly, and usually I'm a shiny guy. The smooth,flat lead on that shiny shiny brass just looks monolithic- and lethally cool. They look accurate standing still !
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  9. Lead Head

    Lead Head member

    What are you guys doing about the barrel leading? This can also be a reason for bullet weight variations since the leading is different from box to box meaning the alloys are varying which would have an influence on bullet weight. I go from bullets that lead up the barrel to the point that it take the better part of an hour to clean it to ones that lead noticeably less. Those kinds of inconsistencies are hard to swallow for me, doesn't it affect you or don't you pay attention to leading?

    I went back to Penn Bullets and ALL my leading problems went away. As far as weight I can buy my .45's guaranteed to withing 7 tents of a grain from Bob with no leading. I don't have time to scrape lead out. Once your barrel gets laded up, your accuracy goes out the window it gets so bad with MB's.
  10. Jech

    Jech Well-Known Member

    Leading? What leading? xD

    This load/charge combo doesn't lead up at all in my Marlin 336. Now, if I pushed it a lot hotter to the 10gr range well beyond the pressure/velocity recommendations for a bevel based rifle bullet...well that's another story!

    I stick to RanchDog's gas checked 165gr flat point for my full power stuff.
  11. Lead Head

    Lead Head member

    If I had any more to shoot I'd say stop by and I'll show you what leading looks like. My new 9MM leaded up so bad you almost couldn't see the rifling in places, I exaggerate not, just about an hour and many different devices to get it out. The lead they are casting is inconsistent, maybe you've been lucky so far.

    I experience extreme leading in more than 50 under 100 rounds. There's no way I could use those bullets for my steel target shooting. I wouldn't make it to the end of the shoot and as I said, accuracy goes out the window as the barrel gets blocked. One time it was actually so bad I feared barrel failure as you are warned not to fire lead through a Glock.

    Now I bought some .38's to get me through a tough time and they aren't as bad but we're still talking needing to make 100 passes with a metal bore brush verses 20 passes with Penn Bullets (I do 20 passes cleaning up after a jacketed shoot). I just found I couldn't trust the alloy they are casting.

    I'll add: and these I had leading problems with are target loads, very light loads some under recommended minimum.
  12. jerkface11

    jerkface11 Well-Known Member

    Blarby have you tried trailboss yet?
  13. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    Nay, I haven't yet.

    If I hadn't justed stocked up on unique and h4895, I might be inclined to try it :)

    Maybe after the move !
  14. Sin City Shootist

    Sin City Shootist Well-Known Member

    A strip of Chore Boy wrapped around an old brush makes quick work on a leaded barrel. Any chance you're using a Lee FCD? My barrels used to lead really bad till I quit using the FCD. I'm assuming it was shaving the bullets on the way out and leaving deposits for the next round to embed deeper in the barrel.
  15. Lead Head

    Lead Head member

    To get it cleaned I would use a metal bore brush, Lewis Lead Remover, Led Away wrapped round an old .45 brush. But until the heavy deposits that are so thick they blur the rifling, Lead Away doesn't hardly tough it; that's more for getting the last traces of it out. Do that for about an hour and it's finally clean.

    I use a FCD and with Penn Bullets have no problem with lead in any of my guns. The FC die doesn't "shave lead off", it final sizes the cartridge.
  16. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    Hoppes elite before.....

    Hoppes elite after.......

    Comes off "like butta"
  17. Lead Head

    Lead Head member

    No it doesn't...common.

    You're telling me I need 50 or more strokes with a Lewis Lead Remover to get the bulk out so I can get it better with a hundred or so strokes with a old .45 brush in a 9 mm then with Lead Away patch wrapped around it for another 25 to 50 strokes and all I have to do is run a patch of Hoppies and I'm done? LMAO

    If I had more of those bullets to fire I'd love to have you come over and show me this magic trick.

    Look if you don't like/want the bad press quit telling me I'm wrong so I don't feel I need to respond. I'm not here with any bone to pick with anybody nor do I have a beef with MB personally; I'm just tellin it like it is for the bullets I had. Don't forget I had some MB .38's which weren't nearly as bad as the 9's but I'll still stick with my dependable Penn Bullets and NO leading. I know what I experienced and it wasn't fun. First tie in over 30 years of loading I ever had a problem that bad.
  18. Travis Two

    Travis Two member

    I never had a lube issue with lube coming off the bullets with Penn despite the rough handling some of the boxes had undergone. Despite the fact that some of the interior boxes broke; the bullets were still intact with the lube in place. The exterior of the box was heavily reinforced so I never lost any bullets despite some of the gorillas the USPS has working for them.
    Most of my boxes come intact with no damage.
  19. MissouriBullet

    MissouriBullet Well-Known Member

    Hey Travis, what took you so long? :)
  20. GLOOB

    GLOOB Well-Known Member

    You can't load high BH bullets under minimum starting loads and not expect leading. If you need light target loads, buy the appropriate bullets. Sounds like Penn does better for your load.

    Hard bullets need more pressure to seal. Your leading probably came from gas cutting from that long Glock throat with a bullet that was not obturated. You were melting your bullets.

    I haven't tried mine, yet, but I expect MBC luger "small ball" BH18 bullets to work best at or near max lead load info.
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