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Metal Storm developing "smart" gun with NIJ

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Nathaniel Firethorn, Jan 1, 2003.

  1. Nathaniel Firethorn

    Nathaniel Firethorn Well-Known Member


    For those who don't remember, Metal Storm is the company that developed a one-million round per second gun (actually more like a Claymore mine.)

    The weak point in the VLe design is the need to wear a secret decoder ring to authenticate the user.

    More on the VLe prototype here:


    - pdmoderator
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2003
  2. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

    MetalStorm has given me many minutes of sheer joy in laughing at its designs.

    With an 80% police "miss" rate, a LEO can be completely defenseless with this banger in a mere 1/215 of a second. Speed reloads? Why, just grab one of your many necessary spare VLes, of course! :rolleyes:
  3. Horny Toad

    Horny Toad Well-Known Member

    Although this example appears to be a flaming pile of @#$%, 3 years after a "Smart Gun" is considered "viable", then all handguns sold in NJ must contain the technology if I'm not mistaken. This is just one more step toward that becoming reality. :rolleyes:

    Horny Toad
  4. Preacherman

    Preacherman Well-Known Member

    On the subject of smart guns... I submitted the following to the API List in July. Seems relevant to quote it here (sarcastically, of course):

  5. Redlg155

    Redlg155 Well-Known Member

    The next step to me is pretty obvious. They will realize the hazards and inefficency of wearing a special "decoder" ring and will insist that the Officer have a computer chip implanted inside of them to activate the smart gun.

    Future...here we come.:rolleyes:

    As for me I'm holding onto all my archaic manual fired weapons.

    Good SHooting
  6. AnklePocket

    AnklePocket Guest

    Unless I'm delusional (and it won't be the first time), the voice of common sense in New Jersey is getting louder by the second. Incident after incident of blatent and shamelessly dishonorable behavior by our state leaders certainly doesn't hurt nor do these continued insults to our intelligence. I wouldn't be surprised if the people of New Jersey demand a new Governor before his first (and definitely last) term expires.
    It's exciting to fast forward to a possible New Jersey where our Constitutional Rights are honored. Stranger things have happened. :neener:
  7. Lochaber

    Lochaber Well-Known Member

    Dream on ... the residents of our blasted state seem to like electing idiots. I have no doubt that they will re-elect the current idiot. Besides, if it looks like he will loose, he'll pull out with a few days to go and then they'll elect the next Dem butthead that shows up, even if they know nothing about him.

  8. seeker_two

    seeker_two Well-Known Member

    I remember reading an article on the Metalstorm pistol in some gun rag (G&A, I think). One of the features of the "smart gun " is that it can be loaded w/ "non-lethal" ammunition that can be selected instead of the "lethal" rounds. Another feature is the ability of an administrator at a command center who could, by cell phone technology, disable the lethal-force option (or the entire gun itself) if they felt that force was not justified.

    My first response: :what:

    My second response: Any halfway-intelligent cop will disable the override or "lose" the gun (and would have to use an "old-fashioned" backup gun).

    My third response: Why can't administrators & politicians have an override that disables them? :evil:

  9. geekWithA.45

    geekWithA.45 Moderator Emeritus

  10. denfoote

    denfoote Well-Known Member

    You guy's miss the point!! This feature is so that .gov/heimlandpolitzi/SS can disable "civilian's" gun when they decide that we are not to have them any more!!!

    I can only hope that we wake up and use the second amendment in the way the founding fathers intended before this happens!!!
  11. Boats

    Boats member

    Now wouldn't that be an irrestible challenge for a hacker?

    "Dude, watch me disable every copgun in the city. If this works maybe next time I will make them all shoot all of their bullets at the same time."

    I have a hard time seeing any cop wanting to use that POS.

    One upside: No one would ever mention the Glock as the ugliest pistol anymore.:D
  12. Nathaniel Firethorn

    Nathaniel Firethorn Well-Known Member

    Easy to defeat

    Wrap the thing in an anti-static bag. It forms a Faraday cage around it and radio can't get through.

    Or use tinfoil. :D

    - pdmoderator
  13. Schuey2002

    Schuey2002 Well-Known Member

    I guess it's time for me to start stocking up on Reynold's Wrap! :rolleyes:
  14. cordex

    cordex Well-Known Member

    A few things on Metal Storm and their small-arms concepts,

    Repeatable accuracy is a joke. Each bullet travels a different length of the barrel, and would each have to have a different amount of propellant to get even reasonably similar velocities.

    Reloading? Sure, just carry along spare barrels. Again with the repeatable accuracy bit.

    A glitch in the gun's programming or a misfired bullet could cause the gun to fire out of order. Can we say boom?

    If an administrator can broadcast a shutdown code to the gun, so can someone else.

    These guns function off the principal that electricity at some point passes through two points on the barrel. Hotwiring a stolen gun to fire with external triggering mechanisms would be a profitable cottage industry. In fact, police officers themselves might pay to have control over their gun again ...

    I don't believe anti-static bags act as Faraday cages.
  15. Soap

    Soap Well-Known Member

    And we expected what out of an Australian-based company?
  16. Diesle

    Diesle Well-Known Member

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