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Might have hogs, want to know if I need a different .308 load.

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by vincyr, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. vincyr

    vincyr New Member

    Saw some disturbing tracks when I took a walk up on our back hill this last weekend. Hoof prints, about 3" long, but they were far too round to be deer. No other sign but the tracks, but I will be doing some more serious scouting this week. I might not always agree with NYDEC on all their policies, but I do agree with them 100% on the subject of feral hogs. If there are any out there, I want them gone, and will do what I can to help make them go away. Luckily, I just acquired a new .308, which will be put to work if I find any pigs. It seems to like Federal Fusion 150 grainers (first load I have had an opportunity to feed it since I brought it home, and it gave me a 1" group. Talk about luck, eh), and I was wondering if that is enough medicine for hogs, or if I should try to find something a bit heavier. I probably will find/work up a better hog load further down the road if necessary, but I would just like to know whether or not what I have right now would be sufficient if I find any pigs before then.

    Also, any tips on hunting/stalking hogs would be greatly appreciated. No experience in my family with hogs outside of a barnyard. Except, if you take his word for it, my brother in law. But he is one of those guys that talks a big game, but from what I have actually seen, is kind of a lousy hunter.(Don't get me wrong, he is a decent enough guy, I just don't take any hunting advise he gives me all that seriously).
  2. Bio-Chem

    Bio-Chem New Member

    that will be just fine for hogs. put the bullet in the right place, and you'll have a dead pig.
  3. Blue68f100

    Blue68f100 Active Member

    I like a pretty hard bullet when it comes to hogs. They can be hard to bring down. Bonded good HP not so good for head shots.
  4. heeler

    heeler New Member

    I have killed some mighty large Texas feral hogs with my 243 using nothing more than your typical cup and core 100 grain bullet.
    They aint Rino's.
  5. Gunner11

    Gunner11 New Member

    I mostly use a 3030 with 180 grain cast lead bullets, or an sks, to stop them. Pigs arent actually as tough as people make them out to be. Ive killed a 150 lb (gutted weight) sow with a .22 head shot but i did feel undergunned at the time. Your 308 will do fine.
  6. vincyr

    vincyr New Member

    Ok, so it sounds like I should be good, then. I know that domestic hogs are pretty tough critters. I've seen them shrug off some stuff that would have laid out a bull twice their size, and barely slow down, so I wanted to check. The only experience I have killing them was with a 20Ga slug to the brain at point blank, with their heads in a bucket of feed, which doesn't give me much practical experience to draw on for hunting bullet choice.

    Also, am I correct in assuming that my priority should be to take out sows if I find an hogs, not boars. Seems to me that that should have the most impact on population growth, but this is kind of unfamiliar territory for me.
  7. Patocazador

    Patocazador New Member

    Almost any gun that you are proficient with will work.

    As far as stalking them when there are not a lot of hogs, your best bet is forget it and use a dog to trail and bay them. I killed more hogs in one year using my Boykin spaniel than I killed total in the previous 8 years without her.
  8. Hunterdad

    Hunterdad New Member

    Where are you in upstate?
  9. vincyr

    vincyr New Member

    Southern Chenango Cty.
  10. JoeDorn

    JoeDorn New Member

  11. alsaqr

    alsaqr New Member

    A hog shot through both lungs seldom goes more than 80 yards after being hit.
  12. Delmar

    Delmar New Member

    Not all that tough to kill hogs-bullet placement is what its all about just like any other animal.
    If you don't reload, and your rifle will shoot them accurately, the basic 150 grain soft nose from Winchester/Remington/Federal/whatever is on sale at your local supply will do just fine. 180 grain is better if you can find them.

    Don't know your local laws, but if you can shoot over bait, there are some who put together a sweet or sour mash to draw them in.

    I see much bacon in your future;)
  13. vincyr

    vincyr New Member

    Since hogs are a invasive, non-game species, baiting them is perfectly legal. However, having been born, raised, and taught to hunt in NY, baiting is not something I really feel all that comfortable with. My conditioning since I started hunting has been that baiting "just isn't how things are done". I know it might limit my success, but early training is hard to overcome sometimes. I might give it a try if I strike out on other methods, but only as a last resort.

    Also, if the bait station gets found, I might need to convince DEC that it was for hogs, not deer, which could be an uphill battle. Innocent till proven guilty is not always a concept they are familiar with.
  14. Delmar

    Delmar New Member

    Understood, vincyr. Wasn't sure as to your ethics when it comes to getting rid of them. I sure hope you get an early handle on taking them out. Feral hogs multiply like rats and are destructive to crops, fences and such.

    Ive hunted feral hogs for the pork, and if they are eating well, turns out to be darned good bacon, ham and short ribs!
  15. vincyr

    vincyr New Member

    That's the rub. I know that hogs are something that needs to be eradicated by any means necessary before they get a foothold, and that baiting is very effective to that end, but it butts up against 20 some odd years of being taught that baiting isn't right. Heck, even food plots are something of a touchy subject around here. I know that the legal and cultural prohibition against baiting is intended(and only really applies to) deer and bear, and that pigs are fair game in both senses, but is sort of a tough mental block to get past.

    If I can manage to get past that, though, are there any baits/baiting techniques that would be more likely to attract pigs than deer or bear. Like I said, if DEC found(or get told about) the bait station, they would probably claim it was intended for deer or bear, and it would be up to me to prove otherwise(again, sort of contrary to the accepted norm, but that's DEC for you)
  16. Gunner11

    Gunner11 New Member

    Kill every sow you can! that's the only way to reduce the speed at which the population grows they also taste better in my opinion to boar.
    Flintknappers thread is excellent, take a tour through all 58 pages one rainy afternoon.
  17. Delmar

    Delmar New Member

    Contact your local game warden and ask for advice and float whatever ideas you might have about your approach to the situation. That keeps it legal and above board, so if anything is suspect you already have someone with a badge coaching you on it.
  18. Patocazador

    Patocazador New Member

  19. vincyr

    vincyr New Member

    That does make sense. I am going to need to call them if my suspicions are confirmed anyways. DEC asks that hogs be reported, to monitor spread, and I am willing to let them know. Chenango county has been listed as clear till now, but I have a sneaking suspicion that might be more to do with lack of reporting, due to a , shall we call it a less than friendly relationship between locals and DEC, since they have them in 3 out of the 5 counties around us.
  20. G'dale Mike

    G'dale Mike New Member

    Can u set up a camera, throw out some corn, and see what comes up for dinner? If it is a pig, then u can set up down wind on the trail they use however far the law states to legally harvest. Good luck

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