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Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by Shooter Solutions, Jan 1, 2003.

  1. Shooter Solutions

    Shooter Solutions New Member

    Jan 1, 2003

    For future reference, as BlackHawk did in another post, the old MolyFusion(tm) thread is: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums...threadid=95961&perpage=25&pagenumber=2

    The main thing to remember is Fusion is not Moly-disulphide, but "becoming one". It doesn't mash something onto or into the metal, or bond something into the metal, but becomes physically "one" with it.

    I spoke with one of the results posters: Eric, over the last two days, and he still is supportive of the technology

    He can't wait to try out the new.

    This section of TheHighRoad.org should be the most ideal starting place to renew the thread, some of the other positive posts were by BlackHawk.

    It can be useful for doing actions, select barrels, shotgun barrel and choke treatment, resizing dies, gunsmithing drill bits, and more.
    (Based on posts on thefiringline.com, and what you can find elsewhere including at Shooter Solutions and Moly-Fusion at RimfireCentral.com posted .)

    An important comparison is the independent
    http://rimfirecentral.com/forums/...&threadid=14257&p...n...=2 It was by forum member asking "Moly fusion?" just as it was started at the old firingline as a question. I am known as techshooter elsewhere, but I registered as Shooter Solutions on thefiringline.

    Blackhawk, would you like to try out the new one? I hope you are running low of the old by now - being a year later. Even if you still have some, I would think you would still be interested in the modifications that make it easier to use, stronger, and more effective.

    For comments from a member of the TFC that closed yesterday, posted there today, 01-01-03 is at czforum.com under > CZF FEEDBACK.

    My job with this continuity post is to answer any questions here for convenience, and/or by phone, on another forum, or by any other method that I can help you with. New technology is developed hand-in-hand with customer interaction.
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2003
  2. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Sure I'd like to try out the new stuff!

    I bought a bunch of it, and I'm not even close to being out since I use the plastic wrap treatment method I believe I described on TFL.

    MolyFusion is great, and I still recommend it highly.

    I had an argument with the instructions saying NOT to use it in chambers. Naturally, I ignored them and happily slathered away on all my chambers. (I don't have any blowback guns, where that could make a difference.) I've had no indications of any problems at all. They're still all slicker than you know what on you know where after extensive use.

    However, I'm not comfortable running my pistols run with just MolyFusion. I also use FP-10 on the MolyFusion treated guns. Their actions are extremely smooth and silky plus being dirt and lint resistant.

    I've treated knives and all kinds of other things with MF, and it's always performed beyond what can be reasonably expected. If the new stuff is better, I'll have to see it to believe it! :D
  3. Shooter Solutions

    Shooter Solutions New Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    Well, Blackhawk, how would you like the current new $20.00 1/2 Oz. Kit with free Treatment-Oil Concentrate or the $35.00 1 Oz. kit with Treatment-Oil Concentrate free, since you have some left?

    More than a year ago the 1/2 ounce or 1 ounce kits, sold for $50.00 and $80.00, respectively.

    I'll need to know in private your past customer identity so I can make sure e right kit is sent to the right person. Even if you got a smaller kit as the original kit, you'll recieve at minimum the $20.00 one. Promise.

    Good enough?
  4. Gewehr98

    Gewehr98 Mentor

    Dec 24, 2002
    More info, please.

    Would it make life easier from the standpoint of me tumbling my match bullets in Moly Disulphide and waxing them? I'm a firm believer in that process, but not in the labor involved.
  5. VaughnT

    VaughnT Participating Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Western SC
    Enlighten me. What is the product claimed to do to become "one" with the gun? How will an expensive oil (?) make my gun better? How will I quantify that increase? How long does a treatment last? How many treatments per ounce/package?

    I have a nice S&W 686 that could use some smoothing on the action, and my 1991 is due back from the smith any week now. Talk to me.
  6. Shooter Solutions

    Shooter Solutions New Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    As a comparison for use on actions, compare the current kit referenced at $19.98 with Brownell's "Black Action Magic II" in the current catalog for the same retail price, but 1/4 ounce of Moly-Disulphide powder and a bottle of Alcohol plus applicators and directions as the core technology. Remember that once you are successful with it it washes off with customer-applied oil or solvent to the "treated" area. The Black Action is much tougher to use because you are trying to cement it to the surfaces. Moly-Fusion as a fusion treatment - stays - it is not only solvent resistant, but shows significant wear-resistance to Muriatic Acid - The Masonry type. Significant = repeatedly for periods of time and coupon steel - not firearms. Extremely corrosive acid should not be used on firearm surfaces - it dissolves the steel.

    Moly-Fusion in the bore is to make the steel non-stick to copper, plastic, powder, and moly-Disulphide, provided there is not a "roughness" that can still hold metal between the peaks. It is static and dynamic friction eliminating, which should not in any area this would be a problem. This includes the chamber of a centerfire rifle or S&W revolver, for example - would convert the chamber - part of the barrel in a rifle, the cylinder in a revolver to 100% blowback.

    Moly-Fusion is pure - It is what it is. It is the "core" to the product.
    Moly-Fusion is one of the additives for the Moly-Fusion Treatment-Oil.
    Moly-Fusion treatment-oil is a homogenous concentrate - in-between additive and oil.

    1/2 ounce Kit, the smallest one available online, will treat many surfaces and more of a few guns - is an even larger kit than the one Blackhawk recieved for the same money. The reason for the bigger sized kits from the smallest to the greatest is to encourage more than narrow Gun Use Only - for knives, drill bits, end mills, and more.


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