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More Proof Guns are not an R or D Issue

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by zdc1775, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. zdc1775

    zdc1775 Well-Known Member

    Here in Alabama the Dems in the Legislature proposed a bill that would allow teachers to be armed in schools. It passed both houses and was vetoed by our Rep Governor. The House Republicans failed to override the veto. Now some Dems are calling out the Republicans asking them what they are going to do to keep the rural schools safe.

    Here is a link to the local paper's article.


    Also this is pretty funny as LEO's and Permit holders are already allowed to carry on school property.
  2. Double Naught Spy

    Double Naught Spy Sus Venator

  3. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    One party spent a lot of money in the primary to insure their choice for R candidate ran. It worked, and our Governor isn't all that conservative or gun friendly IMHO. Backs up the "guns are not an R or D issue" deal.

    We are still in pretty good shape here in Alabama as far as guns go. We could stand some improvement though.

    We must concentrate on voting records and strive to defeat anti gun politicians and elect pro gun politicians all over the country. We cannot worry about which party they hail from, only how they vote on gun issues.
  4. Double Naught Spy

    Double Naught Spy Sus Venator

    Yes, it is rather refreshing and depressing to see Dems complaining the Rep Governor didn't sign the bill into law.
  5. Meta

    Meta Well-Known Member

    Nobody who is paying attention is saying that R's always stand up for gun rights, but anyone who is paying attention sees that the vast majority, like 99% of the push behind these recent assaults on gun rights is coming from Dems. In liberal states like CT the Dems may drag along a chunk of the Republicans, but it's mostly out of fear that the idiots of the state will hold them accountable if they support "military style assault weapons on the street", few of them would have initiated this nonsense, even after the Sandy Hook tragedy. So, in short, it IS the Dems who push this issue, but it's often the sad reality of politics that many otherwise supporters of gun rights in private will vote publicly to protect their jobs. Sad, very sad.
  6. Steel Horse Rider

    Steel Horse Rider Well-Known Member

    The proper division is Progressive and Conservative because as this incident proves, there are plenty of Republican Progressives who also prefer a neutered population. Anything that hinders the masses from looking to the government for protection is a threat to their continued time at the trough of working peoples earnings.
  7. akv3g4n

    akv3g4n Well-Known Member

    Agreed. The "progressive" Republicans and Democrats in CT had no problems throwing the 2nd amendment under the bus with this recent legislation.
  8. Godsgunman

    Godsgunman Well-Known Member

    Its never been a R vs D thing as there are subversives in both camps. Its an idealogical thing, freedom vs subject control. One party has a majority that stand for freedom and the other has a majority who is for control. Our voting needs to be done for those who are for freedom regardless if we label ourselves R or D.
  9. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    I concur with post #5 entirely. And in case no one noticed, A-rated Harry reid voted to approve the U.N. gun treaty.

    Having said that, yes, I am pleased to see the Ds standing up for gun rights in a case like this.

    The problem the dems have, is that they have to strategically appeal to their base. They opened the ranks in 2006-2008 to allow a broader spectrum of people into congress, with more blue-dogs, and they sent the 2009 "No new gun laws" letter to the AG. In 2010, most of them were gone again.
  10. Armymutt

    Armymutt Well-Known Member

    It's really a Libertarian vs everyone else thing. The problem is that too many people either don't know about the party or are too busy wanting to control another aspect of someone else's life.
  11. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    There is only one party that stands for freedom and it don't start with a D, and it certainly don't start with an R. Of the big two, one has a majority that stands for certain freedoms and the other has a majority that stands for certain other freedoms.

    Gun rights must become a non-partisan issue if they are to endure. There is no doubt that guns are largely associated with the republican party. This alone deters many people, most importantly young people, from developing an interest in firearms or the second amendment to begin with. Many simply won't listen to pro-gun arguments because they turn off immediately as soon as they see that "R". The republican parties future is seriously in question and it alone can not sustain gun rights forever. The gun advocacy groups and media must divorce themselves from non-gun related issues. I've taken a number of people to the range and gun shows that were visibly turned off by the far right wing rhetoric. Video games alone are not going to bring in enough new shooters to preserve the 2nd.
  12. Gaiudo

    Gaiudo Well-Known Member

    *proof*? or *some evidence*?

    Anyways, there is a difference between local or state party agendas, and the official planks and agendas of the National Party. To say that there is no difference between the official RNC plank (Pro-2nd Amendment, etc.) and the DNC plank (assault weapon ban, etc.) is just ludicrous. You're going to need a lot more *proof* before you can claim "guns are not an R or D issue".
  13. Steel Horse Rider

    Steel Horse Rider Well-Known Member

    That is absolutely right Justin. We certainly can't have young people embracing the idea of individual achievement and self-sufficiency! Next they will want to learn a trade rather than going to college!!!
  14. CoRoMo

    CoRoMo Well-Known Member

    When any of us read a recent headline that says...

    Gun Control Passed Today Along Party Lines

    ...it is not at all difficult to expand upon those last three words.
  15. Ohio Gun Guy

    Ohio Gun Guy Well-Known Member

    .... In some places.

    Review the votes for Conneticut, Colorado, and New York.

    Yes there are a few R's and a few D's in the opposite column, but the vast majority of D's have been voting for these restrictions and the vast majority of R's have been against.

    We had better wake up for the mid terms! if the D's have control of the Senate and House, we'll all be discussing the Federal Bill that is going through that looks like the Conneticut and New York State Bills! :mad:

    At the last 2 presidential elections, lots of people, some here said, "He's not after our guns" because he said so. Anyone want to ague that now?
  16. Trung Si

    Trung Si Well-Known Member

  17. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    And that's exactly the problem i'm talking about. Aside from right wingers who believe anything am radio tells them, most americans realize that notions such as "democrats oppose self reliance" are ignorant nonsense. So you say something like that to people who realize education is a good thing and they will listen to nothing else you have to say. I'm not saying don't spout off your political views. I'm just saying don't convolute them with firearms related issues.
  18. Steel Horse Rider

    Steel Horse Rider Well-Known Member

    And that differs from your position of superiority how?
  19. Solo

    Solo Well-Known Member

    I went to college. :scrutiny:

    I'm currently in a Ph.D program for organic chemistry seeking to go into the chemical industry.

    Did I do something wrong with my life? :neener:
  20. Steel Horse Rider

    Steel Horse Rider Well-Known Member

    Absolutely not! But the prevailing thought in academia and the political realm seems to be that if you don't go to college then you are a failure.....

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