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Discussion in 'Legal' started by alan, May 23, 2005.

  1. alan

    alan Senior Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    sowest pa.
    America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

    May 23, 2005

    JPFO ALERT: Especially For "Conservative" Supporters --
    Did You Know About This?

    Many members and supporters of JPFO describe
    themselves as politically "conservative;" many also support
    President Bush and most of his policies. We are grateful
    for their support of JPFO's mission and we rely upon it to
    continue our work.

    Since 2001, we have noticed that many conservative
    talk show hosts and commentators have dismissed any
    concerns about civil liberties problems with the USA
    Patriot Act. We at JPFO are always concerned about
    potential and actual violations of the letter and spirit of
    the Bill of Rights, so we have been highly suspicious and
    critical of the Patriot Act. We have been disappointed
    that conservative media people have shown little or no
    interest in the civil liberties issues involved.

    We heard commentators pooh-pooh the concerns that the
    FBI's new power to procure library records of patrons could
    lead to abuses and loss of freedom. One national talk show
    host would challenge callers: "Name me a single instance of
    federal agents snooping into library records!"

    In a guest article appearing in the May 18, 2005
    edition of USA Today, Ms. Joan Airoldi in Whatcom County,
    Washington, answered that challenge. Ms. Airoldi is the
    Director of the Whatcom County Library District.

    Ms. Airoldi opened her article:

    "It was a moment that librarians had been dreading. On
    June 8, 2004, an FBI agent stopped at the Deming
    branch [of the Library] and requested a list of the
    people who had borrowed a biography of Osama bin
    Laden. We said no."

    The Library had consulted their lawyer and done their
    homework, so they told the FBI that it would have to follow
    the proper procedures. About a week later, the FBI served
    a subpoena upon the Library, demanding a list of everyone
    who had borrowed that book since November 2001.

    Ms. Airoldi explained the Library's decision to oppose
    the subpoena in court:

    "It is our job to protect the right of people to
    obtain the books and other materials they need to form
    and express ideas. If the government can easily
    obtain records of the books that our patrons are
    borrowing, [the patrons] will not feel free to request
    the books they want."

    Penetratingly, Ms. Airoldi put it: "Who would check
    out a biography of bin Laden knowing that this might
    attract the attention of the FBI?"

    After the Library's legal challenge, the FBI withdrew
    its request. Ms. Airoldi learned, however, that under the
    Patriot Act, the FBI could go to a secret court to obtain a
    court order to obtain the borrowing records. By invoking
    "national security" as a reason, the FBI could obtain this
    order without having to explain whom they suspect of any
    crime or why the investigation is being undertaken. Under
    the Patriot Act, there is no direct way for anyone to
    challenge such an order. Librarians would be barred from
    even telling anyone about the order from the secret court.

    Think again about this brave library director's
    question: Who would check out a book from the library if
    doing so would attract the FBI's attention?

    If you believe that "I've got nothing to hide" is a
    sufficient answer, then you don't know very much about FBI
    investigations. The fact is, open FBI investigations are
    not narrow inquiries -- they probe into every detail,
    related or not, looking for evidence of some wrongdoing.
    You can't predict what word or deed might implicate you.
    You do not want to be under investigation by the FBI.

    Incidentally, why did the FBI subpoena all of the
    borrowing records for the bin Laden biography? As it
    happens, there were two sentences scribbled in the margin
    of the book that said: "If the things I'm doing is
    considered a crime, then let history be a witness that I am
    a criminal. Hostility toward America is a religious duty
    and we hope to be rewarded by God."

    Were these two sentences evidence that one of the book
    borrowers is a terrorist? Unlikely, for two reasons.
    First, we do not know that a registered borrower wrote the
    sentences. Second, those two sentences are nearly verbatim
    quotes from statements made by bin Laden himself in a 1998
    interview. Thus, the two sentences do not necessarily
    reflect the thoughts of the margin scribbler or any
    registered borrower -- anyone could write a bin Laden quote
    for any reason at any time.

    If somebody else's margin scribble in a library book
    is enough to put you on the FBI's suspect list, then do you
    have more liberty or less? Secret courts with unreviewable
    court order powers -- are these more a feature of free
    countries or of police states?

    (While you're pondering those questions, click on our
    Alert about the National ID law --

    We salute Library Director Joan Airoldi's courage, and
    that of her Library's Board, in standing up for the rights
    of Americans. We challenge the conservative media
    community to applaud Ms. Airoldi also. Regretfully, we
    expect the conservative media folks to ignore the story
    totally, and that is a sad commentary indeed.

    - The Liberty Crew


    librarian-edit_x.htm or http://tinyurl.com/d5l6r


    04.htm or http://tinyurl.com/7po6a

    To learn more about police state policies and their
    appearance in America, get and read: The State vs. The
    People, available at http://www.jpfo.org/books.htm


    JPFO mirror site: http://www.jpfo.net

    Original Material in JPFO ALERTS is Copyright 2005 JPFO, Inc.
    Permission is granted to reproduce this alert in full, so long
    as the following JPFO contact information is included:

    Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
    PO Box 270143
    Hartford, Wisconsin 53027

    Phone: 1-262-673-9745
    Order line: 1-800-869-1884 (toll-free!)
    Fax: 1-262-673-9746
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  2. Henry Bowman

    Henry Bowman Senior Member

    Dec 30, 2002
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    This issue deserves a lot more attention than it's been getting.
    Last edited: May 24, 2005
  3. 2nd Amendment

    2nd Amendment member

    Dec 24, 2002
    There's a devoted group, both here and a much broader one elsewhere, determined to ignore abuses by government where ever they occur. It's way beyond "cop bashing" threads these days. There's a Mod on FC who publicly states(LOUDLY) the PA is totally Constitutional, that PAII will be also and that anyone who questions this is not only a Leftist but a terrorist supporter as well. There several of the same stripe here and most people, rather than deal with the labels, just stay silent.

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