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*More Tommy-Gun pics (1927A-1)

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by J_Dillinger, Sep 19, 2007.

  1. J_Dillinger

    J_Dillinger Well-Known Member

    Shot some more pics tonight ~ this time with the 50-rnd Drum ! :evil::cool:


  2. J_Dillinger

    J_Dillinger Well-Known Member

    And.......1 more........though not as glamorous.....


  3. Dionysusigma

    Dionysusigma Well-Known Member

    Well, you certainly live up to your screen name... :rolleyes::D

    Sweet gun.
  4. RevolvingCylinder

    RevolvingCylinder Well-Known Member

    Very nice. What's the story behind this Thompson?
  5. J_Dillinger

    J_Dillinger Well-Known Member

    Dionysusigma ~ confusing 'handle' but nevertheless, I did pick my name based on my intrigue of an American icon of historical carbines..... perhaps I could be so original that others would have trouble spelling my name like yours........guess I'm just more down to earth. :rolleyes: .......but thanks for the compliment, I'm pretty jazzed up about my new purchase.

    Unfortunately, this one has yet to make any history and I was fortunate enough to purchase it new and now break it in...... hence the excitement of me posting pics and all the enthusiasm.

    Just watch out for 'Coppers ........gotta step lightly now. :cool:
  6. j-alan

    j-alan Member

    I want one. Can I have one?
  7. Leadhead

    Leadhead Well-Known Member

    That's one long barrel you got there!!
    Did it come with a butt stock?
  8. RevolvingCylinder

    RevolvingCylinder Well-Known Member

    I thought it was an Auto Ordnance and I turn out to be right. Did you remove the buttstock?

    How's it shoot? I heard their triggers weren't the greatest. Is there any truth to this?
  9. Bwana John

    Bwana John Well-Known Member

    Grampa had a Thompson.
    Deck watch, Yangtzi River Gunboat, ca. 1930
    "Prepare to repel borders"
  10. J_Dillinger

    J_Dillinger Well-Known Member

    J-alan : Thompsons are available in semi-auto from most firearm dealers in the $950 to $1200+ price range. A few online dealers want as much as $1400-$1500 each which is a bit steep. Mine is the deluxe bought locally for $1139+ tax and came with a 50-rnd DRUM and a 30-rnd box clip from Sportsmans Warehouse.

    Leadhead: Yes, the barrel is 16" so it can't be classified as an SBR. There is a 10 1/2" barrel version sold as an SBR though.

    Revolving Cylinder: Yes, sorta - there's a lot of controversy amongst collectors on this. The 'original' Tommy's were no longer being produced after 1944. West-Hurley reinstated the 'Auto-Ordnance' name after it expired in 1962 (I think). West-Hurley then sold the rights to Kahr Arms which is the version I have. However, I'll dispute anyone saying it's not a real Tommy because the dimensions are based on the original 1918-1919 patents. My serial # starts with KA---- which is how you can tell if it was produced under Kahr. They're made by hand individually in Worchester, Mass. The wood stock was removed (couple of screws) for the picture but is legal in my state since the overall length exceeds 26".......it measures 30-1/2" without the buttstock.

  11. RevolvingCylinder

    RevolvingCylinder Well-Known Member

    Most importantly, would you recommend that people buy one? How's it shoot? They sure look great.

    I take it you removed the stock to save on length due to the fact that the Thompson originally had a "short" barrel.
  12. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

    There is a gunsmith in Colorado that is well known for taking these Auto Ordnance/Kahrs and making them run like sewing machines.

    He has mine now, doing an SBR conversion, reliability job, blank adapter, modifying the mag catch to work with surplus mags, etc.

    Diamond K, Paul Krogh is his name. If anyone is interested I have his contact info.

    Hope mine is back soon, I'll put up some pics when it returns (M1 style)
  13. adobewalls

    adobewalls Well-Known Member

  14. 351 WINCHESTER

    351 WINCHESTER Well-Known Member

    FYI, There was 1 thompson chambered for the .351 winchester slr ctg. It was more powerful than the .45, but war dept. rejected it as it would further complicate the ammo supplies.
  15. bannockburn

    bannockburn Well-Known Member

    They also experimented with a 9mm Thompson, presumably for clandestine activities in Europe. I believe they made only one prototype; probably making it the rarest of all Thompsons. Colt also made something like 46 semi-auto only Model 1927's, primarily for law enforcement agencies and private security firms. The one on the DSA website is one of the original models, a 1921, one of some 15000 made by Colt for Auto-Ordnance. This model is also somewhat rare as the US Navy adopted the Thompson in 1928, and as such, many 1921 models were converted to a slower rate of fire and consequently had their model number "1" overstamped with an "8" to reflect the change. The commercial price for the 1928 was $200; quite a price increase for the one DSA has for sale.
  16. Apple a Day

    Apple a Day Well-Known Member

    We definitely need a range report!
  17. 351 WINCHESTER

    351 WINCHESTER Well-Known Member

    I had a chance to buy an original Thompson with 3 stick mags. for $1,000. I had the money and was eager to buy, but our local sheriff refused to ok the sale. I was a lot younger then and had I known then what I know now I would have gotten an attorney involved. The guy that had it was a customs inspector. He's long gone now and I have no idea what happened to his Thompson.

    Funny thing, prior to the owner's demise, his son, on leave from the USMC asked his dad if he could see the Thompson. Jimmy always keep all his guns fully loaded. Since the bolt was open he figured it was safe so he pulled the trigger. Put 3 rounds in the ceiling.

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