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Most Bizarre Anti-Gun Post I Ever Saw

Discussion in 'Legal' started by mike101, Apr 21, 2007.

  1. mike101

    mike101 Well-Known Member

    From the Huffingtonpost, earlier today.


    "It is amazing to read that so many folks think that if there were armed students and/or teachers that they could have 'defended' the others quicker. Are we really saying that we think citizens should stand up and take out a weapon and defend other strangers from random violence? That's not what I would have wanted - even if it meant my death. I would be LIVID if someone other than a sanctioned law enforcement offical drew a gun next to me in that situation."
    By: daddysboy on April 21, 2007 at 01:40pm
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    I say, let's own this place, the way we own the Brady Blog. :evil:
  2. Art Eatman

    Art Eatman Administrator Staff Member

    Well, no, let's don't. We don't need website wars.

    Posting some polite rebuttal to such ideas is fine...

  3. torpid

    torpid Well-Known Member

  4. Evil Monkey

    Evil Monkey member

    Don't worry about these types of idiots. One day, all hell will break loose, and they will simply "disappear".

    Natural selection, overrides infection!:evil:
  5. 6_gunner

    6_gunner Well-Known Member

    "Haven't DeLay and company ever watched Deadwood?"

    Wow. Just wow. This is her argument. I really hope she's kidding, but I suspect she's not.
  6. benelli12

    benelli12 Well-Known Member

    I've found that in these kind of arguements, being aggressive and/or forcing your opinion never works. All that causes is a debate with emotions, and that never turns out to anything.

    Like Art said, polite rebuttal, even though sometimes hard to do, always works best.

    You cant change the mindset of some people. I have seen this in face 2 face debates, and despite trying my hardest to see their side, I cant. I have come to peace with this fact, it took a while though.

    Its hard to change these kind of people and most of the time you cant, unless they are put in a situation like that, and they finally see the light. But you cant just throw people in a life and death situation.

    Being polite is the way 2 go;)
  7. Ratzinger_p38

    Ratzinger_p38 Well-Known Member

    I think he is trolling. Perhaps even a poster from THR? :D
  8. Eagle103

    Eagle103 Well-Known Member

    That's charitable.
  9. mike101

    mike101 Well-Known Member

    "Posting some polite rebuttal to such ideas is fine..."

    Now, did I say anything about being impolite? I've been polite to them all day. Sometimes, even though a post is polite, it doesn't make it past their censors.

    There are quite a few pro-gunners posting over there. No one on our side is being emotional or insulting. The same can't be said for them, I'm afraid. It's funny. They can hurl all kinds of profanity laced insults at us. But, if one of us so much as calls one of them an idiot, the post doesn't get posted. So, we have all been excersizing a great deal of restraint over there.

    Example: One of them started pushing Wes Clark for President, because he is in favor of "sensible" gun laws. I posted his famous quote about "If people want assault rifles, they should join the Army." I posted it along with the well-known, and similar quote from Heinrich Himmler. I've tried twice, so far. No luck yet.

    Do you really think this guy is a troll? That's what I thought at first, because it's so absurd. But, I don't think they think so. This wasn't the guy's only post, just his strangest.
  10. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    Sarcasm? No, it is a manifestation of the Leftist ideal. Remember, above all, Government is God, i.e. it can do no wrong.

    Max Weber, idealizing German authoritarian thought, believed that the State had a monopoly on violence. In the feudal Continental European model it did.

    Weber and Marxism/Leninism merged (or grafted is a better term IMO) at the end of the 1920s. The dictatorship of the proletariat could only be achieved via a state monopoly on violence. An armed serf is a roadblock to True Socialism where the New Socialist Man could be molded by those in the black overalls/the Inner Party.

    Government is God to the Left. They will die to defend their religion, but they would rather you die to serve their God.

    In undergrad, I didn't play along.;)
  11. mike101

    mike101 Well-Known Member

    Well, if that first post didn't get you, maybe this one will. This is the latest post as of 7:11 PM.

    Jesus told his disciple to put away his sword. So if someone wants to support gun rights, fine: just don't say you're a Christian at the same time. That's my answer to the compassionate conservative crowd.
    By: startrekchess on April 21, 2007 at 05:52pm
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    So, I guess you guys don't think I should invite them over to play at our house, huh? :D
  12. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    Did not Jesus say to buy swords too? Put them away, but have them. Works for me.

    I'm not compassionate.:)
  13. BayouTeche77

    BayouTeche77 Well-Known Member

    Ratzinger, is that a confession of sorts?! ;)
  14. Sage of Seattle

    Sage of Seattle Well-Known Member

    I just copied and pasted the link in a new window and it said "page not found."

    Just an FYI for y'all...
  15. Guy B. Meredith

    Guy B. Meredith Well-Known Member

    Well I would most gladly oblige this individual and save my ammunition for someone that counts.
  16. Sistema1927

    Sistema1927 Well-Known Member

    I suggest that we make people who think this wear signs that say:

    Please do nothing to protect me. I am waiting for the Police

    That way, we will know who to ignore when a crazed murderer enters the room.
  17. tulsamal

    tulsamal Well-Known Member

    There used to be a French guy who posted on one of the computer boards I frequent. We sometimes discussed all kinds of different things. And the French guy basically said the same thing to me. I had said something like, "I might be the guy who saves your life someday with my legal concealed handgun" and he honestly said, "I would rather be dead." He wasn't kidding either. If I saved him, he would have to admit there was a point to the private ownership and carrying of handguns. He would rather be dead than have his personal ideologue destroyed in such a way. And there is the whole strange sort of pacifist thing at work as well. Somehow it is morally superior to just allow yourself to be killed rather than "lowering yourself to the level of an animal" by killing another person.

    I can _almost_ see that if the person is basically a Quaker. It really means something to them. There is some moral courage in that. But only if it is just you that is involved. No matter how seriously you "despise violence," could you really stand by and watch your wife and children brutalized and killed? I think there is some kind of line that even the most Walter Mitty type of person just can't cross.

  18. ElZorro

    ElZorro Active Member

    This young twit has a following of young twits.

    No, I didn't use the terms "tatooed" or "nappy headed".

    If we put this in context, we should perhaps look at her credentials.

    From her own Bio, we find; "Originally from Greece, she moved to England when she was 16 and graduated from Cambridge University with an M.A. in economics. At 21, she became president of the famed debating society, the Cambridge Union."

    Well, well, a Greek educated at Cambridge, perhaps as liberal a place of learning as one could conjure, and then brags of her presidency of the Cambridge Union. Egad! And a Masters in economics. There's a background for leading the civilized world.

    And one of her "renowned" writings is touted as; “The Gods of Greece,” (which) celebrates the power of myths as guides to forgotten dimensions of life and ourselves."

    Yup, myths as guides. I was married to a "crystal freak", who took our kids out of school so she could attend the Moronic Conversion, ca. 1986-87--WITHOUT THE KIDS.

    Add to the list of her accomplishments something called “Fanatics and Fools: The Game Plan for Winning Back America”, (which) offers a scathing portrait of our contemporary political landscape with a bold, inspiring and practical approach to restoring America to the promise envisioned by our greatest leaders."

    "A bold, inspiring and practical approach to restoring America to the promise envisioned by our greatest leaders."

    Wonder who she thinks our "greatest leaders" are/were. Bet she quotes that great thuthgiver Bill, "I did not have sex with that woman", Clinton.

    Folks, I say we don't waste our time on this foolishness. The world is already filled with it and, as for me, I don't have the time or energy to have a duel of wits with an unarmed person.

  19. DKSuddeth

    DKSuddeth Well-Known Member

    Sadly, there ARE actually people out there who think that very thing. On another general message board I frequent, gun control threads invariably end up with a few of them saying that they absolutely in no uncertain terms DO NOT WANT me or my vigilante friends protecting them if the SHTF. :barf:
  20. Phaetos

    Phaetos Well-Known Member

    Hmmm ... seems to fit his name, or maybe it should be changed to mommasboy :D

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