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My first slamfire.....

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ShroomFish, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. Ranger Roberts

    Ranger Roberts Become a THR contributing member!

    It looks like it was a Bryco/Jennings or whatever they are going by these days!

    edit: looks like Tarosean beat me to the answer...
  2. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    Can i borrow the gun? My fiance has an obnoxious bird and i've been looking for ways to 'accidentally' do away with it.

    "I duno what happened hon, the gun just went off and was coincidentally pointed in the bird's direction"
  3. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    Those things only fire when you DON'T want them to.

  4. psyopspec

    psyopspec Well-Known Member

    I've never heard this guideline before. What would or should one do if they live in an urban area? If they decide they can't in the house and outside that house is city for several miles in each direction, would you suggest that after cleaning their gun they drive to the country to chamber a round? Since NDs can also occur during what the shooter thinks is dry fire practice, should one never dry fire in their own home either even if they have a good backstop? Since others occur during disassembly that requires a trigger pull, is the solution then to not field strip a pistol in the home?

    I just seems a little overbearing, but I'd like to hear more about what's guiding your thinking.
  5. Tirod

    Tirod Well-Known Member

    The issue about it being "negligent" is mostly whether someone wants to own up to it being they way they handle the gun.

    Insert the mag, drop the slide is common technique. Whatever, the cause was the firing pin had enough force to impress the primer. Was the round previously loaded and the nose nicked, causing it to protrude? Too much lube on the firing pin, or no spring to keep it from bouncing forward? Plenty of things cause a discharge.

    How it gets interpreted being "negligent" is a matter of opinion. If a defect is widely known, maybe. Handling the weapon during cleaning and having it go off is the most well known circumstance. In that light, a lot of people would call it negligent.

    As for the hole, plain white toothpaste - a little dab will do ya. If it went through the roof, don't ignore it. Slip a piece of milk jug plastic under the shingle with some roof cement on it to seal it up.

    I've seen negligent discharges (not me!) and I don't think you can exercise too much caution. It's the number one circumstance - loading and unloading. It's why I prefer rifles with detachable magazines - you don't cycle the ammo thru the chamber (less nicks) and close the cocked bolt on one just to extract it. But, you chamber a round by letting the action spring ram the cartridge home, semi autos all do that. Therefore, always point it where it won't be a problem.

    If the pistol is kept after this, a bucket of sand in the room might not be a bad idea.
  6. Krogen

    Krogen Well-Known Member

    If the gun is "best known for not firing at all" and you now have had an "unplanned" discharge, I'd sure think twice before keeping it as a home defense gun. :what:
  7. Analogkid

    Analogkid Well-Known Member

    HMMM? I have several of the Bryco 9's, Jennings 9's and even a Jimenez 9.

    How did you accomplish this? I don't even think there's a way to put them back together wrong and have that happen.

    Was the Booger hook on the Bang switch when you *Racked one in the pipe*?
  8. Spammy_H

    Spammy_H Well-Known Member

    I'd detail strip the slide and see if there's any gunk in the firing pin channel, or some other obstruction keeping the pin protruding forward.

    I'm sorry to hear of your accident. I also disagree that this was a negligent discharge. If you don't pull the trigger, it shouldn't go off. Having said that, I agree that perhaps the ceiling might not have been the best direction to point when releasing the slide.

    Having said that, I could see myself doing the same thing.

    A friend of mine gave me this advice: Field strip & clean after every range trip, detail strip & clean once a year.
  9. CLP

    CLP Well-Known Member

    Does anyone know much about this handgun which would explain why or how this could have happened?
    After I take my Glock to the range I clean it (not a detail strip), and since I use it for HD I load it before I store it. I do this indoors and pointed in a safe direction with finger off the trigger. I couldn't imagine this happening unless the firing pin had some inertia or there was a high primer. Do you reload? I can't imagine the flack I'd catch from my wife for ruining her floor if that happened with me. I'd be banished to the basement permanently.
  10. c4v3man

    c4v3man Well-Known Member

    Never heard that one before... it's not like "extra lube" makes it extra slippery... What design would possibly rely on metal-to-metal friction/stiction (which constantly changes depending on dirt/temperature... both of which constantly fluctuate in a firearm) to keep the firing pin from contacting a live primer?

    The only problem extra lube should cause is perhaps rendering the loaded cartridge's primer inert if it's penetrating lubricant, or am I wrong?
  11. Spammy_H

    Spammy_H Well-Known Member

    I'll preface my comments by saying that I have no familiarity with a Jennings/Bryco specifically. However, I am familiar with striker fired weapons in general, owing and shooting several of them, in addition to hammer fired weapons:

    The problem with lube in the firing pin channel is that oil attracts dirt. The channel gets gunked up and the firing pin sticks. In a striker fired weapon, the firing pin in spring activated. Since the spring forces the pin forward, it's more likely to get stuck in the forward position, causing a slam fire.

    I've always read to never lubricate the firing pin / firing pin channel for this reason. Clean it, but don't add lube to it.
  12. rodregier

    rodregier Well-Known Member


    Was there a mark on the primer? (There is also an uncommon phenomena called a cocked primer.)

    (Portable) products are made to create a safe backstop indoors for loading and unloading autopistols.

  13. Silent Bob

    Silent Bob Well-Known Member

    Negligent to load a semiautomatic firearm in the house? That's a new one on me :rolleyes:

    I guess only people in remote rural areas are allowed to load their semiautomatic firearms indoors.

    Apartment dwellers like me are just SOL. Time to turn 'em in, I guess.
  14. CLP

    CLP Well-Known Member

    Cocked primer? What's that? Primer not fully seated?
  15. Ragnar Danneskjold

    Ragnar Danneskjold Well-Known Member

    Not negligent. Inserting a magazine and releasing the slide to chamber the first round is SOP for millions of gun owners. Nothing wrong with it. If that is indeed all the OP did, there's nothing negligent about it. The gun suffered a mechanical malfunction and fired when it should not have. That's a true Accidental Discharge, not Negligent.

    See if it's still under warranty. If so, send it in to get it checked and fixed.

    This. A firearm that isn't mechanically reliable is not fit for any sort of defensive use. Period.
  16. Ryanxia

    Ryanxia Well-Known Member

    Glad no one was hurt.
  17. Lupinus

    Lupinus Well-Known Member

    Failing to see how loading a home defense gun inside the house is in itself negligence.

    Pointing it in an unsafe direction or doing so improperly is negligence.
  18. sixgunner455

    sixgunner455 Well-Known Member

    Keep the AR for HD.
  19. ShroomFish

    ShroomFish Well-Known Member

    @Ragnar Danneskjold, The reason I kept this weapon for HD is because with out 500 rounds down the pipe I have never had a issue with it, I also call it the last resort since I keep my PA-459 beside my bed also..
  20. ClickClickD'oh

    ClickClickD'oh Well-Known Member

    Yup, definitely negligence then...

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