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Nagin T-shirts follow 'chocolate' comment

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Desertdog, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. Desertdog

    Desertdog Participating Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Ridgecrest Ca
    Nagin T-shirts follow 'chocolate' comment
    Net entrepreneurs capitalize on New Orleans mayor's remarks

    Internet entrepreneurs have capitalized on New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin's controversial comments about wanting his city to once again be "chocolate" – a majority black – by selling T-shirts bearing the official's image dressed as Willy Wonka.

    To really enjoy this story, you need to see the T-shirt. Go to;
  2. dasmi

    dasmi Senior Member

    Feb 20, 2005
    Colorado Springs, CO
  3. davec

    davec Member

    Apr 29, 2004
    Bayonne, NJ
    I think the real tragedy of Nagins comments is how it showed how unfamiliar America is with P-Funk and George Clinton.


    Chocolate City is the name of a 1975 album by Parliament. It features the classic P-Funk combination of George Clinton, Bernie Worrell, Bootsy Collins and Eddie Hazel and the debut of the Horney Horns consisting of Maceo Parker and Fred Wesley. The album has a theme of love of Washington DC where P-Funk was particularly popular with the Capitol and the Lincoln Memorial both featured on the cover as well as sticker titled "Washington DC". The album reached the top 20 of the Billboard black charts but only reached #91 on the album charts.

  4. Coronach

    Coronach Moderator Emeritus

    Dec 20, 2002
    To put his comments in perspective, what if I had said this:
    I would be correctly branded a racist and the comment would be soundly drubbed as race-baiting rhetoric.

    Nagin has already proven himself to be blisteringly incompetent. Hopefully he'll continue to shove his foot in his mouth.

  5. Henry Bowman

    Henry Bowman Senior Member

    Dec 30, 2002
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Is it the kind with specks of vanilla bean? :confused: ;)

    No, no! He meant milk. Chocolate milk!:scrutiny:
  6. dolanp

    dolanp Active Member

    Feb 20, 2005
    LOL it's about time someone gave a flip when a prominent black person displayed their racism.
  7. Harry Tuttle

    Harry Tuttle Senior Member

    Nov 14, 2003
    Marion Barry's Washington, DC has been know as "Chocolate Town" for a long while.

    "The laws in this city are clearly racist. All laws are racist. The law of gravity is racist." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC
  8. migoi

    migoi Active Member

    Feb 11, 2004
    I think another...

    aspect of this whole thing is he seems to be encouraging black people to resettle/rebuild in areas already proven to be prone to disaster.

    If I'm reading the articles correctly, the places in/around N.O. that received the least amount of damage and have been the first to be repopulated are populated primarily by white people. That leaves those areas that were hardest hit and taking the longest to be safely repopulated as the ones he's encouraging black people to move back into.

    If a white person had suggested this he would have been accused to setting them up for genocide. Pretty interesting.

  9. Desertdog

    Desertdog Participating Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Ridgecrest Ca
    Thanks, dasmi

    Some day I may learn how to post pictures on here. Thanks.
  10. Art Eatman

    Art Eatman Administrator Staff Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    Terlingua, TX; Thomasville,GA
    Lock this creature in a cage with another well-known New Orleans type: They could Duke it out.

    :), Art
  11. Cosmoline

    Cosmoline Senior Elder

    Dec 29, 2002
    Los Anchorage
    He's certainly proving to have a very productive "chocolate" highway. He's near to drowning in the stuff at this point.
  12. 1 old 0311

    1 old 0311 member

    Jun 26, 2005
    Planet Earth
    Hey give Nagan a break................He is still trying to find the 10,000 dead from Katrina:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

  13. saberstitch

    saberstitch New Member

    May 11, 2005
    It does seem he is pretty desperate to get the slums filled back up and people back in...possibly because his election is coming up and he probably doesn't have much support from the "white milk" as he puts it. :rolleyes:
  14. CentralTexas

    CentralTexas Participating Member

    Jun 2, 2004
    Austin Texas

    Happens often, Willie Brown former mayor of San Francisco after the legislature passed a law he favored made a comment about "getting over on whitey" I think it was. IT's on BOTH sides of the aisle though-

    ~New York City Councilman Charles Barron told a
    crowd at the Millions for Reparations March in
    Washington D.C. that he wished his goal of seeing
    blacks compensated for the enslavement of their
    ancestors was closer to fruition. He said, “I want to go
    up to the closest white person and say:’You can’t
    understand this, it’s a black thing’ and then slap him, just
    for my mental health.”

    ~Donna Brazil, Al Gore’s presidential campaign
    manager, called Republicans “white boys” who aim to
    “exclude, denigrate and leave behind.” And, when the
    Washington Post asked Brazil what she would do for the
    Gore campaign, her response was that she was there to
    ensure that the campaign and election did not fall into
    the hands of “white boys.”

    ~ Senator Dodd (D-CT) made these remarks during a
    tribute to Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV): “It has often been
    said that the man and the moment come together. I do
    not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend
    from West Virginia that he would have been a great
    Senator at any moment. Some were right for the time.
    Robert C. Byrd, in my view, would have been right at
    any time.” Tom Daschle (D-SD) defended Dodd’s
    comments, which sounded an awful lot like the
    comments made by Senator Lott.

    ~Jesse Jackson, who misses few opportunities to expose
    racism in others, referred to New York City as

    ~Jackson’s buddy, Al Sharpton, was a central figure in
    fanning the 1991 Crown Heights race riot, where a mob
    killed an innocent Jewish man. In addition to that,
    Sharpton also initiated a 1995 protest of a Jewish owned
    store in Harlem where protesters used several anti-
    Semitic slurs.

    ~Bill Clinton was among three state officials in Arkansas,
    in 1989, who were sued under the federal Voting Rights
    Act of 1965. “Plaintiffs offered plenty of proof of
    monolithic voting along racial lines, intimidation of black
    voters and candidates, and other official acts that made
    voting harder for blacks,” according to the Arkansas
    Gazette, “The evidence at the trial was indeed
    overwhelming that the Voting Rights Act had been

    During Clinton’s 12-year tenure as Governor, he never
    approved a state civil rights law.

    Bill Clinton admired Oral Eugene Faubus, whose claim to
    fame was trying to bar nine black children from
    attending Little Rock’s Central High School in 1957.
    Clinton was also a friend of William Fulbright, a
    segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto,
    which denounced the Supreme Court’s Brown vs. Board
    of Education decision. Clinton referred to Fulbright as
    “my mentor, a visionary, a humanitarian.”

    ~Democratic National Chairman, Terry McAuliffe used
    the term “colored people” in a speech soon after
    becoming DNC chief. And I thought liberals were

    ~San Francisco Democrat, Mayor Willie Brown, after
    winning the 1995 election said, “The white boys got
    taken fair and square.”

    ~Apparently Spike Lee has a problem with interracial
    couples as he has stated that, “I give interracial couples
    a look. Daggers. They get uncomfortable when they
    see me on the street.”

    ~Dan Rather, having avoided covering a story on
    Condaleeza Rice, eventually did the story, saying that
    CBS “got the Buckwheats,” suggesting that CBS was
    afraid not to cover the story because the other networks
    were covering it.

    ~Andrew Cuomo found himself in an uncomfortable
    position when he said that voting for his rival for the New
    York Democratic gubernatorial nomination, Carl McCall,
    who is black, would make for a “racial contract”
    between black and Hispanic Democrats “and that can’t
    happen.” Cuomo eventually dropped out of the race
    for governor.

    ~Former Democratic Minority Leader in the U.S. House
    of Representatives, Dick Gephardt, gave several
    speeches to a now defunct white supremacist
    organization called the Metro South Citizens Council.
    Gephardt also asked the group for an endorsement of
    his candidacy.

    ~Regarding Clarence Thomas and Affirmative Action,
    Maureen Dowd insults Thomas’ accomplishments by
    writing, “It makes him crazy that people think he is where
    he is because of his race, but he is where he is because
    of his race.” Is Dowd saying that without Affirmative
    Action, blacks are incapable of accomplishing anything
    great or is she saying that all whites are racist and
    therefore would never have given Thomas a chance?

    It may be one thing for a conservative to point all of
    these things out, but there are some black Democrats
    who have accused their own party of racism. Says
    Baltimore Democrat, Tony E. Fulton, “They really don’t
    care about us. We are used every four years, then
    thrown back.” Black conservatives have been pointing
    that out for years.

    Dereck E. Davis, of Prince George, Maryland, is
    chairman of the Economic Matters Committee.
    According to Davis, “The state party is racist to the
    core.” And Nathaniel T. Oaks, a Baltimore Democratic
    Delegate, remarked, “I think the Democratic Party takes
    black people for granted.”

    The above are all fairly recent incidents, but racism in
    the Democratic Party stems back to prior to the Civil
    War. The Republican party was created in response to
    a growing number of Americans who were against
    slavery. Thomas Jefferson, and others with the same
    philosophy, that slavery was a “positive good,” founded
    the Democratic Party.

    Following the war, Democrats continued to fight against
    equal rights for blacks, eventually defeating
    Reconstruction and implementing Jim Crow. During the
    1920s, Republicans repeatedly called for anti-lynching
    legislature that was opposed by Democrats.

    Franklin Delano Roosevelt did his part to continue the
    trend of Democratic racism. In addition to the
    Japanese Internment situation, Roosevelt is also
    responsible for appointing two notorious segregationists
    to the U.S. Supreme Court - Jimmy Byrnes and Hugo

    Hugo Black, a former Democrat Senator from Alabama
    had a long history of hate group activism. He was a
    member of the Ku Klux Klan and became famous for
    defending Klansmen under prosecution for racial
  15. Bottom Gun

    Bottom Gun Active Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Elgin, Arizona
    Everyone says we should rise above the racial issue and make it a thing of the past, but how can we when the present double standard allows certain people to take advantage of it whenever it benefits them to do so?

    Examples: Black Entertainment TV, Miss Black America, United Negro College Fund, Ebony Magazine, NAACP, La Raza, etc.

    Substitute the word "White" or "Caucasian" for any of the above and see what happens.

    I'm more than a little tired of this double standard and the preferential treatment the "oppressed people" feel is an entitlement including Affirmative Action.

    How many years does it take to graduate from being oppressed to being judged on your own merit like everyone else?

    No, I'm not a racist but I do believe in equality. Unfortunately, I haven't seen equality here.
  16. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    We've certainly come quite a distance from the prevailing social standards of my boyhood: open expressions of racism now make people national laughinstocks instead of presidential contenders.
  17. Desertdog

    Desertdog Participating Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Ridgecrest Ca
    Not too many years ago somebody started a "White College Fund." Almost immediately he was sued. He won because it was all "private money."
  18. Mr.V.

    Mr.V. Member

    Aug 31, 2005
    Los Angeles, CA
  19. Working Man

    Working Man Participating Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    DFW Tx
    French vanilla... :rolleyes:

    It really is a bunch of heart warming, sins of the father, BS! Hell, I want to be called an Italian American and have
    a UGCF "United Ginny College Fund".

    The other thing that gets me is the term "African American".... IIRC, Charlize Theron is African.... I wonder if she
    can call herself an "African American" with out special interest group backlash. :scrutiny:
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2006
  20. Desertdog

    Desertdog Participating Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Ridgecrest Ca
    It really screws up people when I call myself an AMERICAN.

    This is what most of us are, and we who are born in American or who gained citizenship, need to call ourselves Americans.

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