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(Nebraska) Concealed weapons measure has strong support

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Desertdog, Dec 30, 2005.

  1. Desertdog

    Desertdog Participating Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Ridgecrest Ca
    Concealed weapons measure has strong support

    LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) -- The fight to allow Nebraskans to carry concealed weapons is now a decade old, but Sen. Jeanne Combs believes it will be passed in the upcoming legislative session.

    Combs, a card-carrying member of the National Rifle Association, introduced her concealed-weapons measure (LB454) last year.

    It was passed out of committee and sent to the floor for debate, but with the legislative session waning, she made a deal with Speaker Kermit Brashear of Omaha to pull the measure from the agenda.
    In return, Brashear committed to scheduling the concealed weapons measure "for full and fair debate" at the beginning of the looming session, which starts Wednesday.

    "I look forward to that discussion and debate and fully expect that the bill will be enacted by the Legislature and signed into law by the governor," Combs said.

    In an Associated Press pre-session survey, 26 of 49 senators said they would favor allowing Nebraskans to carry concealed weapons, while five said they were leaning that way. Eight were opposed to the idea and two were leaning that way. Four were undecided and three did not answer the question. One senator did not participate in the survey.

    Thirty-eight states have some form of concealed weapons laws, according to the NRA.

    Combs' measure has 23 co-sponsors, but it's not assured of passage.

    Supporters of the idea have been trying to get such a measure passed since 1996.

    Former Sen. Gene Tyson of Norfolk introduced such a measure in 2003. It was advanced to second-round debate but never returned to the agenda -- later dying because of a rule that gives legislation a two-year shelf-life to be passed.

    A concealed weapons measure was first introduced in 1996, and the 2003 vote marked the first time the bill had advanced in the Legislature since 1998. The bill that year cleared one of three rounds of debate before time ran out.

    Supporters argue that being able to carry concealed weapons is a constitutional right. And they say the bill would merely put guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens who want to protect themselves against "bad guys" who already carry weapons.

    "I believe the most fundamental of human rights is the right to protect one's self and family from physical harm," Combs said. "I wanted Nebraskans to have available the same self-protection option available to residents of 44 other states -- the ability to qualify for and receive a permit to carry a concealed handgun on their person in venues where it is not otherwise prohibited."

    Gov. Dave Heineman supports the concept of legalizing the carrying of concealed weapons but has not taken a position on Combs' bill.

    The bill would require applicants for a concealed weapon permit to pass a background check and complete a handgun training and safety course. The permit would cost $100 and be valid for five years. Convicted felons would not be allowed to get a permit.

    Concealed weapons would not be allowed in a variety of places, including bars, police stations, public meetings, athletic events, schools, churches, hospitals and banks. Signs also could be posted prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons in other locations.

    It is estimated that licenses could be granted to more than 64,000 people in Nebraska.

    On the Net:

    Nebraska Legislature: http://www.unicam.state.ne.us/
  2. Firethorn

    Firethorn Participating Member

    Feb 27, 2004
    And what makes these places so special that a person who fulfills all the other requirements shouldn't be allowed to carry there?

    Ernie Chambers has blocked this long enough. Time to make him fight for every restriction.
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2005
  3. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Member

    Jan 28, 2004
    Too bad this law was not in effect just a few short years ago. It would have been illegal for the yahoos who killed 5 people in 40 seconds in a bank in Norfolk to bring a gun into the bank.

    I won't hold my breath. Sure Brashear said it would come up for debate first. But I think his lips were moving at the time.

    I love how they have to describe Sen Combs as a "card carrying member of the NRA." I guess this affects her reasoning and judgement somehow.

    And then there's the line, "Thirty-eight states have some form of concealed weapons laws, according to the NRA." Is the NRA the sole voice of authority on this subject? Can't the writer verify this with other sources? It's still true regardless, Mr Editor.

    My state Senator is opposed to this. He's bought into the "blood will run in the streets" hysteria. Despite the actual real life experience of 38 other states, he still prefers hysterical hand wringing.
  4. Mongo the Mutterer

    Mongo the Mutterer Participating Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    St. Louis
    I love the libs .. "card-carrying". That phrase goes back to when Uncle Joe McCarthy was pursuing them...

    I keep my card at home, takes up too much room in my pocket. Room that I need for my speed-loader...
  5. sctman800

    sctman800 Active Member

    Jan 5, 2003
    Westville, Ill.
    Thirtyeight states IIRC is the number of states having shall issue CCW. There are only four states that have no provision for CCW, I know this pretty well being from one of them. Also Wisconsin has passed CCW law and they are waiting for the governors promised veto and hopefully the sucessful override. Jim.
  6. Monkeyleg

    Monkeyleg Mentor

    Dec 25, 2002
    Decatur, AL
    Good luck, Nebraskans. I hope both WI will join you in passing our bills this year.

    BTW, I wish someone would post positively the number of shall-issue states. Sometimes it's 37, sometimes 38. We should call Alaska no-permit-required just to keep things clear.
  7. carebear

    carebear Senior Member

    Jul 30, 2004
    Anchorage, AK
    Alaska is both Shall-Issue AND no permit required.

    We still have permits available for avoiding nics checks and reciprocity reasons.

    I have to get around to renewing mine.
  8. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    I'd sure like to be able to visit Nebraska again!
  9. TrapperReady

    TrapperReady Senior Member

    Jan 29, 2003
    Good luck! Be prepared for the typical rantings of the ignorant.
  10. Monkeyleg

    Monkeyleg Mentor

    Dec 25, 2002
    Decatur, AL
    carebear, I know that permits are still issued for those who want them for reciprocity.

    I just wish that we could say that X number of states are shall-issue, Y are discretionary-issue, and Z require no permits.

    When those of us interested in the issue don't have our facts straight, it makes it hard to discuss things with those who don't understand the issue.
  11. SomeKid

    SomeKid Participating Member

    Aug 25, 2005
    I think it is Alabama you have to thank. Legally, it is may, but in practice shall.
  12. WvaBill

    WvaBill Member

    Sep 22, 2003
    Springtime, WV

    To accept that those places are better off as prohibited to CCW, then where is the concern for everywhere else?

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