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Need opinions....Carry pistol

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by redneck2, Apr 24, 2013.

  1. redneck2

    redneck2 Well-Known Member

    I've gone into a number of local shops. Every time my head starts to hurt looking at all the choices. Need help.

    My person criteria...caliber in preferred order (1) .357 Sig, (2) 10 mm (3) 40 S&W, (4) 45 acp. Stopping power is obviously very high on the list.

    Capacity is irrelevant. I'm not gonna get into a long extended shoot out. Paper plate at seven feet is good enough accuracy. In that vein, it doesn't need to have 17 round capacity. Six is plenty.

    Gotta be thin and light. No matter what it is, it's still too big and too heavy. Minimize size and weight. Also, I strongly prefer manual safety. I've been using one for over fifty years. I can handle flipping a safety switch, though I guess it's not an absolute necessity if it has a decocker.

    Quality. Price is far less an issue than quality. Looking at Sigs, H&K, Walther, etc. I have a G20 for a house gun. The Glocks I have held are fat, bulky and don't have a safety. If G29's had a safety, I might consider one but there's gotta be something smaller.

    Input appreciated. TIA
  2. Hit_Factor

    Hit_Factor Well-Known Member

    Your glock and all others glocks have 3 safeties.

    They don't need a safety like a double action Sig does.

    Look into the design of the guns, it will help you understand why certain types of safeties are on a handgun.

    It usually has to do with stored kinetic energy in a spring and to potential cocking or cocked position of the hammer or striker.
  3. Inebriated

    Inebriated Well-Known Member

  4. JTQ

    JTQ Well-Known Member


    Why does a double action SIG need a safety more than a Glock.

    For those of you now searching through your SIG catalog's, double action SIG's don't have a manual safety either.
  5. Hit_Factor

    Hit_Factor Well-Known Member

    I was thinking of the decocker. You got me.
  6. JERRY

    JERRY Well-Known Member

    Kahr P45 or PM45.

    Springfield XDs 45.

    anything else is substantially bigger.
  7. bannockburn

    bannockburn Well-Known Member

    1) Springfield Armory XDs .45ACP.
    2) Kahr P45.
    3) Kahr P40.
  8. breakingcontact

    breakingcontact Well-Known Member

    This is a tough one.

    You want very small, thin, light and a major caliber...

    I'll recommend a XDS if I have to pick something. (It has the backstrap safety. I too like thumb safeties, but would feel fine with a backstrap safety only.)

    The safety issue is your personal preference, don't let anyone talk you into something you aren't comfortable with. You're not more macho for carrying a gun without a manual safety.
  9. DSessom

    DSessom Member

    Taurus PT145 would fit that bill too. Or a Taurus 24/7 Pro CDS, which is basically the same gun.
  10. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    How small do you want to go? I carry a CZ-75D PCR. It is the lightweight, alloy, compact version off the 75.

    Look at the XD series, and for even more compactness, the Walther PPS, Sig P938.
  11. Dlowe167

    Dlowe167 Well-Known Member

    I have a CZ P-06 in .40,its alloy. But wait on a Ruger SR45c,they dont make the compact (c) yet.Its .45cal.But id recommend the Springfield Armory XDs
  12. RCL

    RCL Well-Known Member

    I don't know if you will find a more compact pistol in a major caliber than a S&W Shield in .40 S&W.
  13. redneck2

    redneck2 Well-Known Member

    I looked at a Shield today. That's exactly what I was looking for. Guy at the LGS was quite knowledgable. He highly recommended it. 40 cal, super light and nominal recoil for the caliber. Quite a bit thinner than a Glock, etc.
  14. WC145

    WC145 Well-Known Member

    Fusion could probably to make you an alloy frame CCO size 10mm 1911, as long as you're willing to pay that kind of money.
  15. breakingcontact

    breakingcontact Well-Known Member

    Agreed, I glanced right past the 40 S&W preference, otherwise, I would have recommended the Shield as well.

    Shield is an excellent concealed carry gun. It shoots like a much larger gun but carries easily.
  16. Tinker

    Tinker Well-Known Member

    Of those I've handled I'd suggest the Shield (you already looked at) or that skinny little Ruger LC9.
  17. cluttonfred

    cluttonfred Well-Known Member

    One of the compact Kahr pistols in .40 or .45 would work--and the Kahr P40 and PM40 are both available with a manual safety and loaded chamber indicator with or without night sights in special Massachusetts-legal models.
  18. Lantern

    Lantern Well-Known Member

    Sounds like an M&P shield in 40 or an XDS in 45 is what you are looking for.

    In 1911 the sw1911sc is sweet. The kimber carry models and the lightweight colts come in around 25oz i believe.

    Good choices all.
  19. Plan2Live

    Plan2Live Well-Known Member

    Walther PPS
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2013
  20. needmorecowbell

    needmorecowbell Well-Known Member

    I'd go Kahr CW45 or Springfield XDS in 45.

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