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"Negroes With Guns" Documentary

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Cosmoline, Feb 20, 2006.

  1. Cosmoline

    Cosmoline Well-Known Member

    This looks interesting. I suspect it will descend into the usual anti-gun nonsense but the story is certainly an interesting one from an RKBA standpoint. William's later links with the communists mirror connections between the Black Panthers and Maoists. It seems pretty clear in hindsight that the communists had less than zero interest in civil rights, but saw the struggle as an opportunity for propaganda. He was also a proud NRA member, and his self defense rifle club never actually had to kill anyone. The threat of dozens of black men with rifles was enough to keep the klan at bay, until bogus charges drove Williams into Castro's all too willing embrace.

  2. Optical Serenity

    Optical Serenity Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the heads up...I'll have to try to remember to watch it.
  3. gunsmith

    gunsmith member

    Most modern people forget

    that it was the Dem's who founded the KKK. & it was radical Republicans who armed the ex slaves.
    and that idjit m moore has everyone believing that the NRA and the klan are synonymous, when the NRA was founded by Union officers.
  4. IndianaDean

    IndianaDean Well-Known Member

    Don't forget the NRA was the first organization in the US to allow any race, sex or creed to join.
  5. KriegHund

    KriegHund Well-Known Member

    Yeah, ive always found it ironic that republicans are synonymous with rascists when it was the democrats who tried to keep the slaves and were the worst rascists.

    But parties change.
  6. gunner03

    gunner03 Well-Known Member

    How can that be??? mr.mooron distinctly tells us that the NRA was formed the same year the Klan was outlawed. It was exclusively made up of Klan members with no place else to go......That was one of the dumbest movies ever. Being outlawed it is amazing how often they show up without getting arrested.
  7. Maxwell

    Maxwell Well-Known Member

    Sometimes I wonder.
    The Dems certianly arnt interested in arming people equally, theyve got curious ways to interpret the constitution, and their idea of "depend on the state" can only lead to a repeat of what took place in the 60's and 70's for some other group of Americans. Of the nations that mirror the lefts ideals, several are in turmoil or bankrupt... Is this what we're supposed to want?

    Maybe Im stubborn, but it takes more than a few photo ops and slogans to make me believe any parties actially changed its stripes.

    I might not agree with all Williams may have said, he makes many good points. A weapon is no good without the intent to use it. Intent is no good without a tool to enable it.

    Had him and many others not been armed, I wonder how far the KKK might have gone?
  8. crashm1

    crashm1 Well-Known Member

    Must be a time zone thing

    I saw it last week and found it pretty balanced. I was pleasantly suprised.
  9. boofus

    boofus Guest

    Not only was the NRA founded by Union officers, some of the presidents and founders were quite decorated individuals that actually bled and faced death for the rights of black people.

    Can fatass moore claim that? How dare he libel true American heros that put everything including their lives on the line for the Republic and the rights of black people.

    Case 1: Ambrose Burnside, 1st president of the NRA fought for the Republic at Antietam, one of the bloodiest battles of the American Civil War.

    Case 2: Winfield Scott Hancock commanded Union forces at Williamsburg, Antietam, Fredericksburg and Gettysburg. At Gettysburg he got shot and then hit by artillery and ended up having to remove a bullet and an iron nail from his leg after having a tourniquet applied. Keep in mind at that time medical care and hygiene were atrocious. A serious wound like that was virtually a death sentence. Can lardass moore or ANY of the race pimps in the CONFEDERATE(democrat) party side claim to have put that much on the line for black people's rights?

    Case 3: General and President Ulysses S Grant. Everyone except a democrat would have learned about him in grade school history class.

    How dare he slander the names of those heroes by claiming they were associated with the KKK. If I was a descendant of any of those Civil War heroes I would sue that propagandist pig for every cent he suckered people out of with his 'documentaries'.
  10. mbs357

    mbs357 Well-Known Member

    For the sake of proof, does anyone have any good articles about this?
    Specifically about the NRA being founded by the Union, and the Democrats founding the KKK?
  11. boofus

    boofus Guest

    Easy, go to www.google.com and do a search for
    "ambrose burnside NRA"
    "winfield scott hancock NRA"
    "ulysses s grant NRA"

    As for democrats founding the KKK. Which party was solidly in control of the confederacy, ante- and post-bellum south at the time? The democrat states in the south all said if a REPUBLICAN president, namely Abe Lincoln was elected they would all secede. John Wilkes Booth, presidential assassin, plus all his co-conspirators were democrat. 'nuff said.

    All these facts don't speak very highly for the intelligence or education level of blacks that insist on voting democrat and believing the lies of al sharpton, jesse jackson, or michael moore.
  12. crazed_ss

    crazed_ss Well-Known Member

    So as a black person, I'm unintelligent because I dont vote for your party?
    And what lies are you talking about when it comes to Sharpton or Jackson?
    Specific examples please.
  13. boofus

    boofus Guest

    As a black person you are unintelligent if you claim the Democrats represent and support black people given their previous history of seceding from the United States so they can keep black people as property, founding the KKK, passing Jim Crow laws, murdering civil rights workers. lynching blacks, standing in the schoolhouse door to uphold segregation, filibustering civil rights laws (grand cyclops Robert KKK Byrd is guess what? a democrat) and committing sedition and open rebellion against the Republic in the name of slavery.

    As for sharpton and jackson, just let them get on one of their anti-republican rants and how democrats 'feel their pain'. :rolleyes:

    I bet the plantation masters also 'felt their pain' when they pulled out the whips to keep the slaves in line.
  14. mbs357

    mbs357 Well-Known Member

    Thank you, sir.
  15. crazed_ss

    crazed_ss Well-Known Member

    Democrat... Republican... those are just titles and dont mean much.
    The democrats of old are not the same as the democrats of today. Likewise with the Republicans.
  16. MechAg94

    MechAg94 Well-Known Member

    I don't think the Dems founded the KKK. I do think the two groups use to be the same thing in some locations, but I don't know if I would say they were the same. Certainly not these days. The Democrat Party, as a whole, did support segregation and other anti-minority stuff. Thankfully, they don't do that anymore. Whether the Dems' current policies truly help minorities now is another debate I think.

    Who mentioned Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson? I missed that.

    All that aside, everyone should pursue gun ownership and their RKBA.
  17. bogie

    bogie Well-Known Member

    Sharpton and Jackson would be unemployed (and unemployable...) and broke if many of their followers quit looking at themselves as "victims," and started trying to be successful. We've got too many people who are content to sit at home and whine about how they're "victims," and how they "want" stuff, but they don't have enough energy to go out and work for it.

    "Yessir, Mr. Businessman. If you contribute $100,000 to our fund, we'll be very appreciative (and we won't picket you)." Ask to look at those follows' books... Especially as they're "churches."

    Clue bat: "The Man" did not invent the concept of "readin', writin' and 'rithmatic." Being functionally illiterate is a bad thing.
  18. crazed_ss

    crazed_ss Well-Known Member

    Examples of these "followers" not working and simply claiming to be victims?
  19. U.S.SFC_RET

    U.S.SFC_RET Well-Known Member

    I might disagree on a few issues with williams but I have total respect for him sticking up for his rights. How would you like to live in a country where you suffer from discrimination all of the time still today. White priviledge you bet. Take a black friend you and him dress similar and go to various stores and see who gets asked "do you need any assistance". This country has a long way to go.
  20. bogie

    bogie Well-Known Member

    Howzabout the folks in New Orleans, who were "victimized" at the dome, who couldn't get up the gumption to walk about 4 miles or so to where help was?

    There were enough able bodied folks there to assist others. If they would...

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