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New 1911: Colt series 70 vs. Springfield armory Mil-spec

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by sprice, Feb 10, 2010.


Colt series 70 or springfield mil-spec?

  1. Colt

    40 vote(s)
  2. Springer

    19 vote(s)
  1. sprice

    sprice Well-Known Member

    What 1911 is better and why (or at least wich one do you think I should get and why?) Is colt worth the extra $400?! I just realized that was the price difference. What does MIM stand for? What will be the most reliable?

    They both come in stainless- wich is what I want for those of you who are concerned :)
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2010
  2. DeepSouth

    DeepSouth Well-Known Member

    That is a tough choice but I would have to go with the Springer mainly because I have one that has run 100% perfect from day one. The Springer also has a lifetime warranty in the event something does go wrong. You will be happy with either.

    One more thing the Mil-Spec comes in stainless and I don't think the Colt does, but I could be wrong.
  3. Balrog

    Balrog Well-Known Member

    Colt is better.

    Fewer MIM parts.

    Better resale value.
  4. sprice

    sprice Well-Known Member

    Is it $400 better?
  5. Balrog

    Balrog Well-Known Member

    It is to me.
  6. skipsan

    skipsan Well-Known Member

    MIM stands for Metal Injection Molded, a fabrication technique similar in some respects, to casting which is used by a lot of gun manufacturers to reduce manufacturing cost. Whether MIM parts are signifcantly inferior, or inferior at all, to machined barstock parts is the subject of continuing and often heated debate. Personally, well made MIM parts are just fine with me, and I feel that SA does a good job with MIM.

    I personally feel that the SA Mil-Spec is a better "value" than a Colt at $400 less in price. SA's customer service is fantastic--have never had to use Colt's. That being said, every 1911 shooter should own and shoot at least one Colt. You really can't go wrong with either choice, but $400 will buy a thousand rounds of ammo.
  7. JTQ

    JTQ Well-Known Member

    MIM = Metal Injection Molding.
    Colt Series 70 Reproduction is available in stainless.

    I think a $400 difference would be high. It may be the retail Colt price vs the "street price" on the Springfield. I think $300 is more realistic and looking at Impact Guns it is more like $200 (Springfield says you get a holster too though. I'm sure since they don't identify the holster manufacturer it must be a good one.)

    I think the Springfield is probably fairly priced and is a good deal, but if I were buying, I would pay the extra money for the Colt.

    It is generally conceded the Colt has better internal parts, in addition to the cool dimple on the bottom lip of the chamber to aid in feeding odd shaped bullets (hollow points, semi-wadcutters, etc) and it's made in the USA. I'm not even considering resale value which would make the Colt an even better deal.

    Everybody who is into 1911's wants to have at least one Colt in their collection, since they are the original. While Springfield makes a fine pistol, most would not consider their 1911 collection lacking if they didn't have a Springfield.
  8. AirplaneDoc

    AirplaneDoc Well-Known Member

    Normally I would say colt hands down.
    Better resale value
    better internals

    but I am not much of a 70 series fan myself
  9. weisse52

    weisse52 Well-Known Member

    I have owned both, I still own Colts, and yes they are worth it....
  10. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    Colt if you like the history of the pony and plan to keep it stock

    Springer if you just need a shooter and might have custom work done on it

    if they were both the same price, i'd get the Colt...or i'd use the extra money to make the Springer really outstanding
  11. hector

    hector Member

    SA's site mentions the mil spec has a throated barrel and lowered/flared ejection port... Are these features on the colt 70 or would they need to be added later?

    MICHAEL T Well-Known Member

    I don't think theirs many 1911's today that don't have those 2 items . I will buy Colt over springer any day I have and will do again. Just a better made over all gun Besides its made in USA
  13. hector

    hector Member

    SA's site says the mil spec is basically the GI with a bunch of modernized improvements (throated barrel, ejection port,sites etc)... so i was wondering since the 70 is a reproduction gun they might be keeping it to the original 1911 specs.
  14. cyclopsshooter

    cyclopsshooter Well-Known Member

    if you are going to spend the money get an original 70 series-

    all steel- collectible- reliable (just make sure no one monkeyed the feed ramp)
  15. Oro

    Oro Well-Known Member

    The Colt uses the new "grooved" barrel throat that Colt developed and deployed about 2000. It is a great aid to ammo tolerance as JTQ discussed above. Post-2000 year Colt's all have this (except the WWI repro) and do not need those "tweaks."

    A more realistic price difference I think is about $200 - the difference between the street price of a SA Mil-Spec vs. a Colt O1991 (The basic Government Model - the closest comparable to a Mil-Spec). The $200 would buy you a better barrel, better internal components, much nice grips, and better finish. The extra $200 does buy you quite a bit. The SA is a good value and gun and highly respected. The Colt offers a bit more and you do pay for it, though a very reasonable amount. Both are really good values based on your budget and demands.
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2010
  16. Patrick R

    Patrick R Well-Known Member

    I think comparing the Colt to the Springer Loaded might be a closer match price wise.
  17. Rio Laxas

    Rio Laxas Well-Known Member

    I know it isn't one of your choices, but I really like my new production O1991. I never cared for the older 1991s, but I think the new ones look and function great. I walked away with a blued model for $700.
  18. NMGonzo

    NMGonzo Well-Known Member

    I rather have a colt.
  19. texas bulldog

    texas bulldog Well-Known Member

    i own neither, but have been looking at both (among others) recently. a colt series 70 will be my next 1911.
  20. SideArmed

    SideArmed Well-Known Member

    Someone above already said. Get the Colt if you plan on collecting I guess....Get the springer to shoot.

    I own a Colt Special Gov't Stainless and think the gun is a rip personally. Fit and finish is crap. Not saying a mil spec springer is a whole lot better but I feel more comfortable with it and you are not paying such a premium for the name.

    Saw the new "Colt Rail Gun" too at the shotshow and I think that thing is overpriced as well. Not front strapping, plastic MSH, ****ty slide/frame fit...well fit in general...Give me a TRP anyday

    Colt makes a fantastic AR, their 1911's went down hill a long time ago
    /end rant

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